From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Thu, 12/11/2025 12:35 PM, Edmund wrote:   
      
   >   
   > Lot of words but admit it, you can't file a bug either.   
   >   
      
   The bugs I've filed, were fixed promptly. Meaning   
   "in about three months". One was reproducible on   
   demand, so all I had to indicate was a source of the   
   program, the undesired result, and the OS was fixed   
   so it didn't happen any more.   
      
   You have to:   
      
   1) Imagine there is only one opportunity to transfer   
      a description to the other end.   
      
   2) Imagine you're the dev receiving the input. For   
      reproducible bugs, those are the "best bugs" because   
      there is no ambiguity, no "could not reproduce"   
      coming back.   
      
   Remember that I used to work in the industry, receive   
   bug reports, take bug reports in my teeth that   
   other staff would not take, and run with them.   
   If I detected "shirking of duty", I would do it.   
   I would see to it that a thing was fixed. On occasion,   
   I would sit in the bug review meeting, as the "representative   
   from hardware", and I would watch how bug routing   
   was being done. That's how I learned what   
   ass-hats look like (turning "bugs" into "feature requests"   
   and other chicanery). It wasn't my job to do all of   
   that, but as a "team player", I would do my regular job   
   and that too.   
      
      Paul   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)