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|    Axel to Paul    |
|    Re: LM file transfer/copy issues (1/2)    |
|    24 Dec 25 06:57:01    |
      XPost: aus.computers       From: none@not.here              Paul wrote:       > On Tue, 12/23/2025 2:45 AM, Axel wrote:       >> Axel wrote:       >>> Paul wrote:       >>>> On Sat, 12/20/2025 12:03 AM, Axel wrote:       >>>>> Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:       >>>>>> On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 11:42:19 +1100, Axel wrote:       >>>>>>       >>>>>>> Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:       >>>>>>>> On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 09:45:57 +1100, Axel wrote:       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>> Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:       >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 07:32:04 -0500, Paul wrote:       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>> That could be a bad SATA cable (or less likely, a bad SATA port       >>>>>>>>>>> on the motherboard).       >>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> File corruption would have been picked up by an rsync       >>>>>>>>>> verification pass.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>> I did get "copied with errors" messages at times, so then I would       >>>>>>>>> copy each folder or file within the folder one by one and that       >>>>>>>>> fixed it       >>>>>>>> Did you verify the copies afterwards?       >>>>>>> yes. by byte count       >>>>>> That’s pretty useless. No hashes?       >>>>> ???       >>>>>       >>>> Let us make two files       >>>>       >>>> AAAAAABBBBCC       >>>>       >>>> AAAAAABBBBCD       >>>>       >>>> They both have the same byte count.       >>>>       >>>> Now, do       >>>>       >>>>    sha256sum file1       >>>>    sha256sum file2       >>>>       >>>> and the checksums are entirely different. This is also termed "using       hashes".       >>>>       >>>> It's why hashdeep was invented. Hashdeep can generate checksums       >>>> for all the files in a source tree, then be used to audit       >>>> the same files in a destination tree.       >>>>       >>>>    sudo apt install hashdeep       >>>>       >>>>    cd /home/felix       >>>>       >>>>    hashdeep -c md5 -j0 -r Downloads > /tmp/audit.txt  # Source       tree is /home/felix/Downloads       >>>>                                                               # It has our Golden Files.       >>>>       >>>>    # The path value might be relative or absolute, and the reason       >>>>    # I am using the crafty "cd" values is to be able to audit a       >>>>    # relative path thing for identical contents. both recursive -r       >>>>    # point to the same "directory name".       >>>>       >>>>    cd /media/mint/WDBLUE      # The copied files we hope are       the same.       >>>>                                # This is       the destination we wish to audit for corruption.       >>>>                                # The       destination is our potentially unreliable copy as       >>>>                                #       /media/mint/WDBLUE/Downloads we did with our rsync.       >>>>       >>>>    hashdeep -c md5 -j0 -k /tmp/audit.txt -a -v -v -r Downloads >       /tmp/audit-out.txt       >>>>       >>>> The "md5" is the fastest hash supported by hashdeep.       >>>> The -j0 means "run the audit on a single thread as this is a hard drive       >>>>                and we really want the file list to be in       predictable order".       >>>> The -k specifies an audit file to compare against.       >>>> The -a is "audit mode" and it expects -k to identify the audit file to       use.       >>>> The double verbose makes the output verbose       >>>> The -r is for recursive descent below the Downloads tree.       >>>> The audit-out.txt should identify destination files with a problem.       >>>>       >>>> That's the basic idea, but you can easily "fall into a hole"       >>>> while using hashdeep, and it requires a good deal of hand holding.       >>>> (I use this on both Windows and Linux.) You should open both "audit.txt"       >>>> and "audit-out.txt" with a text editor and make sure the right things       >>>> happened.       >>>>       >>>> There are more utilities than this, for comparing file trees.       >>>> "Tripwire" would be an example of an old one.       >>> I'm making progress on the file transfer problem and will post soon. :)       >>> also I found an app called Meld for checking folders       >>>       >> So the sad tale thus far. But first, some detail. This PC (specs below) has       >> LM 22.2 installed on a 1Tb NVME. It also has two mobile racks for easy       insertion       >> and removal of HD's. The lower rack I use for the Timeshift disk, and the       >> upper one for the files disk, a WD 1Tb mechanical disk formatted in Ext4.       >>       >> It also has two external USB cases for additional hard drives. Following a       process       >> of trial and error, I've discovered that the problem of file errors only       occurs       >> when I write to the files disk in the mobile rack. I can read/write both       ways       >> NVME to USB without errors, and read/write both ways USB to USB without       errors.       >>       >> I can also read from the files disk to write to either USB without errors.              I've also tested the RAM using memtester              >>       >> So my trouble shooting has been focused on the mobile rack. I replaced       it, and       >> also the cable, and swapped the cable to another motherboard (MB) SATA port.       >> Since USB transfers work, and the USB boxes have their own power supply, I       >> thought maybe it was a power issue within the PC.       >>       >> According to the newegg calculator       >>       >> [https://promotions.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator/v2/ ]       >>       >> I need 600 -700 watts for this PC. The PS was only 550 watts so I swapped       it out       >> with a 750 watt PS. Having said all this, I can write to the Files disk if I       >> transfer folders/files in small lots of up to about 10Gb, and today I tried       an       >> old 320 Gb NTFS HD in the rack, and I could write to it without limitation.       ???       >>       >> This is a really confusing for me. I've lost track of what's been suggested       to       >> do so far, and I don't know what to try next, since I've run out of ideas.       :(       >>       >> AMD Ryzen 5 5500|16 Gb RAM|1Tb NVME|NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030       > In reverse order, you should not start by fretting about power. I have a       > "Kill-o-Watt" meter, and it is currently connected to the Daily Driver.       > It shows 36 watts right now, as I type.       >       > The power calculation is a worst case. Maybe it assumes Prime95 running at       > the same time as Furmark (graphics burn-in program) are running. in other       words,       > everything pushed to the wall. While you are doing the file copy test,       > things are not pushed to the wall.       >       > The processor is 64W (turbo or railing at ~130W maybe).       > The GT1030 is maybe 40W or so (It has no PCIe 2x3 or 2x4, and 60W is       > a rough max for a typical video card of that nature).       >       > You're not even remotely close to 550W, by analyzing the first       > consumers that come to mind. General motherboard power, we award       > 50W as a random choice. Now, you're at 220W or so on a max-test.       >       > You can check the voltages, +3.3V, +5V, +12V ad see if they       > are "wilting" and approaching the -5% level. 5V and 12V can be       > measured on a Molex 1x4.       >       > But just in general terms, unless the computer crashes once an       > hour while you're trying to use it, chances are the PSU is not              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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