From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Mon, 12/29/2025 6:20 AM, Handsome Jack wrote:   
   > On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 07:00:54 -0500, Paul wrote:   
   >   
   >>>   
   >> And now that I'm back in lightdm, the XFCE Login settings is available   
   >> as it was before, with the control at the bottom of Users and so on. The   
   >> settings on it were not changed, and as soon as lightdm picked up again,   
   >> it used the settings as they were before.   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   > OK I've done all that and it seems to work for the moment. I note your   
   > comments about LightDM maybe not working reliably with Onboard, so I'll   
   > keep an eye on that and maybe switch back to SDDM if it crashes. The   
   > people who wrote the modified kernel (or whatever) for getting OSK working   
   > on LM must have had a reason for changing the display manager, and maybe   
   > that's it.   
   >   
   > I had no idea that LightDM was what managed the login process (why call it   
   > a 'display manager' when it's actually a login manager?). Nor that there   
   > were alternatives, so it's all new to me even though I've been using LM   
   > for 2.5 years.   
   >   
   > Stuff like that, though fascinating for computer nerds, is very confusing   
   > for people who just want the things to work and don't have the patience to   
   > fiddle - like my wife, for whom this machine is really intended, to   
   > replace her Windows 7 laptop.   
   >   
   > Many thanks to you and others for helping.   
   >   
      
   There's still parts of it I don't understand.   
   The design isn't exactly transparent.   
      
   There's something called elogin for example, but nothing   
   similar to that was evident while I was working. You would   
   probably have to download source for lightdm, or look at the   
   dependencies of the package, to spot how it is constructed.   
      
      Paul   
      
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