From: Jeff@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 05/02/2026 12:14, Paul wrote:   
   > On Thu, 2/5/2026 5:31 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:   
   >> On 05/02/2026 10:02, Jeff Layman wrote:   
   >>> 22.3 Cinnamon   
   >>>   
   >>> I just moved a file to trash and wanted to restore it, but I don't have   
   >>> a trash folder showing in Nemo! From what I remember the "Rubbish Bin"   
   >>> (that's what it was called in the UK), was the final folder in the File   
   >>> System, but it doesn't appear in my 22.3 Nemo.   
   >>>   
   >>> Out of interest I moved the Desktop | Desktop Icons | Rubbish Bin switch   
   >>> to show it, but there's no sign of the folder on the desktop either.   
   >>>   
   >>> Could someone please check their 22.3 Nemo and let me know where the   
   >>> Trash folder appears.   
   >>   
   >> To save time I installed Thunar and that shows a "Wastebasket", so I was   
   >> able to restore the file from that. This is the second major issue I've had   
   >> with this latest Nemo (no folder expanders by default, hidden in a new   
   >> preference was the first). I've never had a problem before with it.   
   >   
   > There is some trash-trivial out there.   
   >   
   >     https://askubuntu.com/questions/102099/where-is-the-trash-folder   
   >   
   > You can see, there is potential for a numeric UID component to it.   
   > As well as canonical locations that might not work out.   
   >   
   > Now, in principle, trash has to be anonymized, to prevent collisions   
   > in the trash location. You cannot store two "some.txt" in there and   
   > recover both of them, if one over-wrote the other. The details would   
   > need to be changed, to allow the files to be "preserved" until later.   
   > And then the question is, what kind of search would work to find it   
   > with a brute force method. Does listing all the files and   
   > sorting by time work ? And so on.   
   >   
   > [name@Moon ~]$ ls -al ~/.local/share/Trash   
   > total 20   
   > drwx------  4 name name 4096 Aug 16 22:25 .   
   > drwxr-xr-x 13 name name 4096 Aug 17 01:10 ..   
   > drwx------  2 name name 4096 Aug 16 22:24 files   
   > drwx------  2 name name 4096 Aug 16 22:24 info   
   > -rw-r--r--  1 name name   16 Aug 16 22:25 metadata   
   >   
   > If I check an LM222, there is only files and info.   
   > And when I tried to create a collision, by throwing out two files   
   > with the same name, it appended a ".2" to the end of the root of the name   
   > plus in the Info folder it used the same for the cataloging of where the   
   file belongs.   
   >   
   > ~/.local/share/Trash/files$ ls -al   
   > total 8   
   > drwx------ 2 bullwinkle bullwinkle 4096 Feb  5 07:03 .   
   > drwx------ 4 bullwinkle bullwinkle 4096 Feb  5 06:57 ..   
   > -rw-rw-r-- 1 bullwinkle bullwinkle    0 Feb  5 07:02 testtest2.2.txt  <===   
   collision test   
   > -rw-rw-r-- 1 bullwinkle bullwinkle    0 Feb  5 06:57 testtest2.txt   
   > -rw-rw-r-- 1 bullwinkle bullwinkle    0 Feb  5 06:56 testtest.txt   
   >   
   > cat testtest2.2.txt.trashinfo                                        <===   
   collision test   
   > [Trash Info]   
   > Path=/home/bullwinkle/Downloads/somewhere/testtest2.txt   
   > DeletionDate=2026-02-05T07:03:11   
   >   
   > It's not an extremely fancy thing.   
   >   
   > So what we learn from the exercise, is we should have "view hidden"   
   > turned on in the file manager (or attempts to search, will be   
   > silently hidden!), and when searching we can only search for the   
   > root part of the missing file, the "testtest2" part and don't attempt   
   > to find "testtest2.txt" because it might not be there.   
   > Just look for the root part. It would all depend on if there   
   > had been a collision, whether one of the files were renamed to avoid   
   > the collision.   
      
   OK. Thanks for that. It was my /.local/share/Trash folder. I found all   
   my deleted files there. BUT I am sure it was never there in previous   
   versions, and indeed one of the comments in that ask.ubuntu page states   
   that it wasn't in their home folder with Ub 14.   
      
   I've now found the answer by looking at my other laptop which has   
   exactly the same version of LM and Cinnamon on it. I'd changed the View   
   menu setting for the sidebar from "Places" to "Tree".in the "problem"   
   version of Nemo on this laptop. With "Places" the Rubbish Bin appears   
   below "File System" and above "Network". I'll now leave it showing as   
   it's far easier to get to than drill down into /.local/share/Trash.   
      
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   Jeff   
      
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