From: ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com
On 2026-02-05, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 05/02/2026 12:14, Paul wrote:
>> On Thu, 2/5/2026 5:31 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>> On 05/02/2026 10:02, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>>> 22.3 Cinnamon
>>>>
>>>> I just moved a file to trash and wanted to restore it, but I don't have
>>>> a trash folder showing in Nemo! From what I remember the "Rubbish Bin"
>>>> (that's what it was called in the UK), was the final folder in the File
>>>> System, but it doesn't appear in my 22.3 Nemo.
>>>>
>>>> Out of interest I moved the Desktop | Desktop Icons | Rubbish Bin switch
>>>> to show it, but there's no sign of the folder on the desktop either.
>>>>
>>>> Could someone please check their 22.3 Nemo and let me know where the
>>>> Trash folder appears.
>>>
>>> To save time I installed Thunar and that shows a "Wastebasket", so I was
>>> able to restore the file from that. This is the second major issue I've had
>>> with this latest Nemo (no folder expanders by default, hidden in a new
>>> preference was the first). I've never had a problem before with it.
>>
>> There is some trash-trivial out there.
>>
>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/102099/where-is-the-trash-folder
>>
>> You can see, there is potential for a numeric UID component to it.
>> As well as canonical locations that might not work out.
>>
>> Now, in principle, trash has to be anonymized, to prevent collisions
>> in the trash location. You cannot store two "some.txt" in there and
>> recover both of them, if one over-wrote the other. The details would
>> need to be changed, to allow the files to be "preserved" until later.
>> And then the question is, what kind of search would work to find it
>> with a brute force method. Does listing all the files and
>> sorting by time work ? And so on.
>>
>> [name@Moon ~]$ ls -al ~/.local/share/Trash
>> total 20
>> drwx------ 4 name name 4096 Aug 16 22:25 .
>> drwxr-xr-x 13 name name 4096 Aug 17 01:10 ..
>> drwx------ 2 name name 4096 Aug 16 22:24 files
>> drwx------ 2 name name 4096 Aug 16 22:24 info
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 name name 16 Aug 16 22:25 metadata
>>
>> If I check an LM222, there is only files and info.
>> And when I tried to create a collision, by throwing out two files
>> with the same name, it appended a ".2" to the end of the root of the name
>> plus in the Info folder it used the same for the cataloging of where the
file belongs.
>>
>> ~/.local/share/Trash/files$ ls -al
>> total 8
>> drwx------ 2 bullwinkle bullwinkle 4096 Feb 5 07:03 .
>> drwx------ 4 bullwinkle bullwinkle 4096 Feb 5 06:57 ..
>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 bullwinkle bullwinkle 0 Feb 5 07:02 testtest2.2.txt <===
collision test
>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 bullwinkle bullwinkle 0 Feb 5 06:57 testtest2.txt
>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 bullwinkle bullwinkle 0 Feb 5 06:56 testtest.txt
>>
>> cat testtest2.2.txt.trashinfo <===
collision test
>> [Trash Info]
>> Path=/home/bullwinkle/Downloads/somewhere/testtest2.txt
>> DeletionDate=2026-02-05T07:03:11
>>
>> It's not an extremely fancy thing.
>>
>> So what we learn from the exercise, is we should have "view hidden"
>> turned on in the file manager (or attempts to search, will be
>> silently hidden!), and when searching we can only search for the
>> root part of the missing file, the "testtest2" part and don't attempt
>> to find "testtest2.txt" because it might not be there.
>> Just look for the root part. It would all depend on if there
>> had been a collision, whether one of the files were renamed to avoid
>> the collision.
>
> OK. Thanks for that. It was my /.local/share/Trash folder. I found all
> my deleted files there. BUT I am sure it was never there in previous
> versions, and indeed one of the comments in that ask.ubuntu page states
> that it wasn't in their home folder with Ub 14.
>
> I've now found the answer by looking at my other laptop which has
> exactly the same version of LM and Cinnamon on it. I'd changed the View
> menu setting for the sidebar from "Places" to "Tree".in the "problem"
> version of Nemo on this laptop. With "Places" the Rubbish Bin appears
> below "File System" and above "Network". I'll now leave it showing as
> it's far easier to get to than drill down into /.local/share/Trash.
My main computer (running LM 21.3 Cinnamon) has the trash folder in
~/.local/share/Trash. I had trouble finding it because I kept searching for
the lower case "trash."
I'm kind of curious what would happen, if I dragged the Trash folder into
the Trash icon in Nemo. It looks like it would let me do it. Would both
disappear? (I think I'll try it on a live USB. I'm just curious.)
I'm happy you found the solution to your issue.
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