From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Thu, 2/12/2026 12:08 AM, Axel wrote:   
      
   > I had already started a fresh install before i saw your comprehensive post,   
   > thank you. it seemed the best option to avoid a possibly corrupted system.   
   > thankfully all is working well now. btw.. this laptop has the most   
   > rudimentary BIOS I have ever seen. there are very few settings, and   
   > most cannot be changed. It has UEFI with secure boot, but there's no way to   
   disable SB.   
      
   This is the era I feared. We were promised what is basically "optionless"   
   machines for the year 2026 or so, removing the ability to turn off Secure Boot   
   and the ability to do Legacy Boot.   
      
   That's going to cause a lot of problems, and your example is just the   
   beginning.   
      
   The thing is, if the scheme was "perfect", I can see this transition   
   making sense. But the scheme is far from perfect, holes galore to fall   
   in, and why limit the escape hatches on a thing which is a mess ?   
      
   There is one less reason to buy a new computer.   
      
   Take my 11 year old computer. The kids can't break it. No MOK. No   
   Secure Boot materials. Ability to boot from Legacy media and UEFI media.   
   Will be able to run its copies of W10 and W11 past June 2026 (when   
   one of the keys on the other machine expire). Right now, that's my most   
   defensively designed computer in the room. 11 years old. If a boot   
   breaks on a Linux there, I can fix it. Whereas a 3 year old machine   
   that Ubuntu injected two certificates into, I can't get them out!   
   Even in recovery mode for the materials.   
      
      Paul   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)