From: stryder@telenet.be.invalid   
      
   On Tuesday 22 May 2012 19:38, Adam conveyed the following to   
   alt.os.linux.mandriva...   
      
   > Aragorn wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Monday 21 May 2012 18:54, Bit Twister conveyed the following to   
   >> alt.os.linux.mandriva...   
   >>   
   >>> On Mon, 21 May 2012 12:31:42 -0400, Adam wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I suppose I could start following Mageia newsgroups to see what   
   >>>> support is offered there.  This newsgroup has certainly been a   
   >>>> major factor in my decision to stay with Mandr*.   
   >>>   
   >>> I think you will find a few subject matter experts lurking in   
   >>> theMageia news group that post here.   
   >   
   > Just yesterday I subscribed to a.o.l.mageia now that   
   > eternal-september carries it (back to about New Year's), and I see   
   > numerous familiar names posting there.   
      
   I'm on eternal-september too and I've been monitoring a.o.l.mageia there   
   since last year in June or something.  I think that's when they added   
   it.   
      
   >> Traffic may seem a bit lesser in volume in alt.os.linux.mageia than   
   >> it does here, but then again, it doesn't have an "[Off-topic]"   
   >> thread. :pp   
   >   
   > I'm trying hard to stay on topic, or close to it, in this and other   
   > threads here.  The subject line here is "Mandriva SA to transfer   
   > distro to an independent entity, says CEO" and my questions started   
   > with "What does this mean to users, in practical terms?" and now   
   > "With that change, what should I do?"  I do /not/ want to be known   
   > as "the off-topic guy" or as a thread hijacker, because I'm not.   
      
   No, but at times it seems like the OT thread is the only one getting any   
   traffic in here. :p   
      
   >> That is certainly true.  No absolute n00bs there.  Almost everyone   
   >> using Mageia had already been using Mandriva/Mandrake or another   
   >> distro prior to that.  No Windows refugees there. :p   
   >   
   > Yes, I see some familiar names there.  I don't mind newbies when   
   > their questions are relevant -- after all, I was a newbie once, and   
   > so was everybody else in both groups.  What I look for more is S/N   
   > ratio.   
      
   Well, that's sort of where the problem lies.  In my experience - and I'm   
   sure many others here can vouch for that as well - the latest batch of   
   GNUbies are rather ardent Windows refugees, who are only in refugee   
   status because of the insecurities or TCO of Windows, but not because of   
   Windows itself as an operating system design.  And so they're typically   
   also bordering "trollism", constantly complaining about how GNU/Linux   
   isn't exactly like Windows.   
      
   So among posts made by the most recent batch of GNUbies, the signal-to-   
   noise ratio is typically very low these days.  It would appear that   
   Microsoft is really like a drug.  Most people who use it get addicted to   
   it, and even though they're trying to wean themselves off of it, they're   
   still addicted to it, and in denial about that.   
      
   >> And that's just going back to a thread that Maurice Batey started on   
   >> April 27th 2012.  Everything before that has already been expired by   
   >> my newsreader.   
   >   
   > My news server, eternal-september, seems to have a.o.l.mageia back   
   > to about New Year's.   
      
   No, it was much sooner.  I remember that I was one of the people who   
   requested that they add it, because I too am using eternal-september,   
   and I think it was around June or so last year that they did, if not   
   sooner.   
      
   >> I would even say that it's a shame he hasn't decided to monitor that   
   >> group a long time ago already.   
   >   
   > Until recently, I was sticking with Mandriva 2010.0, so I didn't see   
   > any point in following another distro's group.   
      
   I monitor several GNU/Linux- and UNIX-related newsgroups.  Even if I am   
   not using the distro of topic there, I can still offer help about or   
   discuss general GNU/Linux-related issues.   
      
   >> PCLinuxOS is also a Mandriva spin-off, but there is - at least, at   
   >> this stage still - a far greater uniformity and commonality between   
   >> Mandriva and Mageia than between either of those and PCLinuxOS.   
   >   
   > But IMHO questions about Mageia seem inappropriate in a.o.l.mandriva   
   > unless they also apply to Mandriva.   
      
   Yes, but that is not what I was referring to.  What I was referring to   
   was that the transition from Mandriva to Mageia will be more smoothly,   
   and that this is made even more smoothly Usenet-wise because of so many   
   of the people from a.o.l.mandriva also being subscribed to a.o.l.mageia.   
      
   >> Mageia still looks and feels like Mandriva in every way,   
   >> except for the branding and the fact that the distribution clearly   
   >> has its own personality in terms of how its community and   
   >> QA/developer team work.  It really is a community distro, without a   
   >> corporate overlord breathing down the developers' necks.  And   
   >> personally, I like that.   
   >   
   > As I said, my definition of a "better" distro for me will include   
   > numerous factors of varying importance.  Possibly the "best" distro   
   > for me right now IMO might even be something else entirely.   
      
   Only you would know that.  As long as you realize that Ubuntu and   
   derivatives are things you best stay away from, coming from Mandriva. :p   
      
   > A while back, I learned a technique for quantifying subjective   
   > decisions into objective ones, and I may end up using that method   
   > here too.   
      
   And now I have no idea what you're talking about. :p   
      
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