From: VBCoen@gmail.com   
      
   Hello Jim and everyone else!   
      
   16 May 12 02:46, Jim Beard wrote to All:   
      
      
   Yes that thats fixed it, well more or less, thanks for your help one and   
   all. I assume that if I upgrade it to the next version I will have to do   
   this again as it will not honour the existing system settings.   
      
   Now I have to work out why the network (RealTek chip) is saying it is   
   basically set up but is not working (runs like a snail) and when I alter it   
   then says connection failed. I know this is an issue with Meg' 2 but what   
   is going on with 2011.0 x64? At the moment my only idea is to delete the   
   connection and try to create a fresh one!   
      
   This is a fresh set up, on an i5 2500k based box that I intend to transfer   
   the drive to my main box that is using a Dual 2 core E6600 (with 2010.2   
   i386) hopefully transferring all the needed apps/data converted to x64   
   slowly.   
      
      
   I think I really need to start looking for another distro but most of the   
   one's looked at so far seem to have their own problems (CentOS, Linux   
   Mint, Oracle Linux).   
      
    > On 05/15/2012 07:24 PM, unruh wrote:   
    >> On 2012-05-15, Vince Coen  wrote:   
    >>> Hello All!   
    >>>   
    >>> How can you revert the desktop back to the original menu system   
    >>> instead of these silly mass icons.   
    >>>   
    >>> I like the KISS methodology and have a clean top except for often   
    >>> used apps, the rest I just go via the menu.   
    >>   
    >> I agree it is idiotic.   
    >> Not sure what you mean-- do you mean the little application laucher   
    >> icon in the lower left had corner? The only way I have found is to   
    >> right click on it, and remove it. Then right click on teh panel bar   
    >> and select Add Widgets. One of the widgets in the set is the KDE   
    >> Application launcher widget ( there qare two of them, choose the   
    >> classic one) Now to put it onto the panel bar, double click on it.   
    >> Unfortunately that puts it into the lower right had corner, not   
    >> left. I have no idea how to move icons around on the panel. Nothing   
    >> I do works. so I have to be happy with the launcher on the lower   
    >> right corner instead of the lower left.   
      
    > Once you have the icons on the panel you want, click on the   
    > cashew to get options to adjust height of the panel, etc.  Right   
    > click?  Left click?  Something.   
      
    > While the option for adjusting the panel height is up, you can   
    > drag icons along the tool bar.  There seem to be some   
    > restrictions, as I have never been able to move Opera right next   
    > to Firefox, as Thunderbird or something stays in the way.  I have   
    > thought about deleting Thunderbird's icon and see if I can get   
    > the browser icons next to each other and then put Thunderbird's   
    > icon back, but this is on my backup machine and I have never   
    > found it worth the time to try.   
      
      
      
      
   Vince   
      
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