3t$1@xivic.prima.de   
   From: Wolfgang.Schelongowski@gmx.de   
      
   Aragorn writes:   
      
   >The buzzword these days still /is/ Ubuntu, and Mint comes as a good   
   ...   
   >So... That's where the MickeySoft drones go now. Most of my killfile   
   >entries are for alt.os.linux.ubuntu, and as of recently, I've also had   
   >to add a few for alt.os.linux.mint.   
      
   The _number_ of trolls is small, but they morph. You have to kill them   
   by Injection-Info|NNTP-Posting-Host|X-Trace|X-User-ID etc. because   
   some servers allow using arbitrary From:'s.   
      
   As to your question in a different article   
   | In fact, that's a good general question. For anyone reading this who's   
   | not using Mandriva/Mageia/PCLinuxOS, why did you choose the distro   
   | you're using? What are the strengths and weak points you've found as   
   | you've used it? Thanks in advance!   
      
   I started with SLS (60+ floppies), tried the Yggdrasil CD unsuccess-   
   fully, then SuSE 1.2 (3 CDs, I still have them). I also tried BSDI   
   unsuccessfully (bad support), but remained with SuSE for two reasons:   
   1) inertia   
   2) based in a non-English country (here: Germany) - software companies   
    in the USA have to learn that there are other countries besides the   
    USA with different languages and different customs (yes, I've been   
    burnt _severely_ before)   
      
   I've remained with SuSE/openSuse mainly for reason 1), but I'm   
   currently worried that no release 12.2 has turned up yet. Besides   
   they seem to be going the way of Ubuntu - targeting those who   
   merely want to drag and drool - and they seem to be disinterested   
   in German specialities - e.g. their Mediathek package doesn't work,   
   I had to install the one from heise.de. What's more, their ADSL   
   in 11.4 was broken in such a way that a normal user would never   
   be able to fix it, so I used 11.3. I'll see if I'll ever upgrade   
   to 12.[12].   
      
   Does anybody know what type of business the new owners of SuSE are?   
   I hope that they're not what we call Heuschrecken (locusts).   
      
   In the meantime (the last 18 years) I've tried   
   A) FreeBSD - 4.6 was blazing fast but the next release didn't really   
    support my hardware any longer. Besides, a few years ago I read   
    a thread in comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc which was about kernel   
    panics when you removed a still mounted USB-stick. The opinion of   
    the regulars was "that won't be changed to `remount read-only'.   
    IOW FBSD targets only people who are permanently in sysadmins mode.   
      
   B) I played a bit with Mandr{ake,iva}, but not enough to have an   
    opinion about it.   
      
   C) I installed a variant of Ubuntu (Medibuntu?) in 2008 on a laptop   
    to edit videos recorded on TV. It works OK for that porpose.   
      
   D) I'm typing this on a 350MHz SuSE 6.4 which has been my workhorse   
    for practically all text oriented things for about twelve years.   
    It has a few (cough) non-standard add-ons, and it does DHCP,   
    DNS, and wwwoffle (WWW proxy) for every other local machine   
    attached to it. And I still start the GUI (KDE) manually, and its   
    internet presence is about once a fortnight[1].   
      
   E) I have tried other versions of SuSE but they were not really useful   
    to me because I didn't have ADSL then. Sing it: "Patches, I'm   
    depending upon you, son ..."[2]   
      
   F) I haven't really tried NetBSD, OpenBSD, Debian or Slackware yet,   
    but I may in the future.   
      
      
   [1] I'm getting pinged by 128.9.160.132 (jar.isi.edu) aka   
    203.178.148.19 aka pinger.* aka 129.82.138.38 aka 128.9.160.132 ...   
    every 11 minutes, but not today, on pentecost monday. Is it a   
    holiday today in Colorado?   
      
    Besides, pinging somebody every 660 secs after receiving the last   
    ping reply sometimes leads to 666 seconds between pings. Has   
    anybody seen an angry pack of peasants with torches and holy water   
    wielding pitchforks and crucifixes around Boulder lately?   
      
   [2] The refrain of a rather corny song from some 40 years ago. It   
    always comes to my mind when I hear/think about patches.   
      
   [12] NAF - not a footnote   
   --   
   The first entry of Sin into the mind occurs when, out of cowardice or   
   conformity or vanity, the Real is replaced by a comforting lie.   
    -- Integritas, Consonantia, Claritas   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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