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|    Jim Beard to Adam    |
|    Re: OT: Off-Topic    |
|    29 May 12 22:11:10    |
      From: jdbeard@patriot.net              On 05/29/2012 09:05 PM, Adam wrote:       > Jim Beard wrote:       >> On 05/29/2012 03:58 PM, Adam wrote:       >>> What I was wondering, though, is whether the mother's maiden       >>> name counts for family association. For example, could our       >>> hypothetical Mr. Wang's parents have been Mr. Wang and the former       >>> Miss Shin? If so, would he have any association with the Shin       >>> family elsewhere? (My own mother's maiden name is rare enough so       >>> that anybody else with it is probably related somehow.)       >>       >> I do not know. That question never arose, and I never thought       >> to ask it.       >> I speculate that given the patriarchial system that dominates       >> all but a       >> few places (yes there are a few small matriarchial societies in       >> Asia),       >> the distaff line would not carry much if any weight.       >       > Thanks for the clarification! BTW I tried plugging my mother's       > maiden name into Google and it pulled up a total of only six       > people, five close relatives and one stranger.              It might be interesting to find out just how "strange" the sixth       one is. That could be nothing more than a more distant relative.              My paternal surname is not real common (though not uncommon, I       suppose) but there are at least a half-dozen or so major lines       with no known associations among them. Add to that, the name       morphs into Baird, Bard, Barde, and at least a dozen less common       variants. One branch was enumerated regularly in 1790-1840       Censuses as Baird, but the names on gravestones for those folks       are Beard. A second branch that I have yet to find the exact       linkage to, started off as Beard and all land records bear that       name, but the books on Colonial-era genealogy list the earliest       of that line as Baird, his two sons vascillated between Beard and       Bard, and from his grandchildren on down the name has       consistently been spelled Bard.              My great-great-great grandfather died in his mid-30s, and his       younger brother married his widow. Younger brother sometimes       went by Baird, sometimes by Beard, and his enlistment in the War       of 1812 listed the surname as Baird or Bayard, and those who       indexed the old records indexed only Bayard which muddied the       waters a good bit. There is a second record for the war of 1812       for a Bard that may also refer to younger brother, but the only       reference I have been able to pin down narrows it to a roll of       microfilm over 700 pages in length. I have yet to try to gain       access and go through that, in hope of finding what could be only       a single mention, and no idea of what context or association so       one has to carefully go through every page... The combination of       old handwriting and sometimes poor quality microfilm images does       not make searching easy.              Cheers!              jim b.                     --       UNIX is not user unfriendly; it merely        expects users to be computer-friendly.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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