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   Bobbie Sellers to Adam   
   Re: OT: Off-Topic   
   16 Jun 12 12:41:25   
   
   From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 06/16/2012 11:46 AM, Adam wrote:   
   > Bit Twister wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 02:28:36 -0400, Adam wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> I'm still planning the partitioning [...] I'm thinking 80 GB for   
   >>> each root partition, but would appreciate any advice from anyone.   
   >>   
   >> I think 80GB is a bit much. Looking like I'll need to start using 30   
   >> on my next install.   
      
   	Sounds like it is to me but I grew up on megabyte partitions   
   so I think the tools to make those partitions need refinement so that   
   making smaller partitions for various purposes is easier.   
   	   
   >   
   > Good point; 80 GB for / is probably too much. I'm trying to think ahead   
   > and guess what's appropriate for distros 4 or 5 years from now (how long   
   > I'll probably be using the new box as my primary system), so I don't   
   > have to repartition later. I'm also switching from a 32-bit OS and apps   
   > to 64-bit, which I gather take up slightly more disk space. Also, I'm   
   > expecting apps to grow a little larger with each version. I think 50 GB   
   > ought to be more than enough for Mandriva 2016 plus its apps, and I'd   
   > rather allocate too much disk space than too little. I have about 500 GB   
   > on the internal HD to use for Linux. I also have a 1 TB external HD, and   
   > after three years there's still about 250 GB unallocated on it. I may be   
   > the only user here who has more disk space than they need. :-)   
   	250 GiB internal disk, and a terabyte external with over half   
   of the space free.  But I am working on filling it with my entertainment   
   media.   
   	   
   >   
   >> $ df -h /   
   >> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on   
   >> /dev/sdb7 25G 16G 7.5G 68% /   
   >   
   > I only have 11 GB used on / on this (the old) system,but then I only   
   > have about 2300 packages compared to your 2900.   
   >   
   >> FYI: Swap will be used only when needed.   
   >   
   > Would you recommend putting swap on the HD or on /dev/shm? The new box   
   > has 8 GB RAM. This (old) one only has 1 GB, and within an hour after   
   > booting it's usually using a little of swap. That's usually only for   
   > short durations, but the stuff stays in swap after that. Right now:   
   >   
   > [adam@eris ~]$ free -m   
   > total used free shared buffers cached   
   > Mem: 1000 951 48 0 3 240   
   > -/+ buffers/cache: 708 292   
   > Swap: 2925 176 2749   
   > [adam@eris ~]$   
   >   
   >> I have a /hotbu partition for a hot backup of the "Production" install   
   >> for just in case I screw up as root.   
   >   
   > Sounds like a good idea, but how often do you do that, and when? I can   
   > see where doing it every minute, or every month, would effectively be   
   > useless.   
   >   
   >> I also created a partition just for creating backup dvd isos.   
   >   
   > I have a partition for automated nightly tarball backups on my external   
   > HD. I'm going to change it to VFAT so it can be read by Windows or Mac.   
   > This way, if my internal HD dies completely, I can bring the external HD   
   > to any other computer and retrieve my backups.   
   >   
   >> Then there is /cooker and /cauldron for testing the next release of   
   >> Mandriva and Mageia and a few partitions with the previous release.   
   >   
   > Those make sense, but so far I haven't been trying anything but official   
   > releases. OTOH it couldn't hurt to allocate space for those. I could   
   > just create several partitions the same size as / and decide what to use   
   > them for later.   
   >   
   > Does physical position on the HD affect performance much? For example,   
   > if / is toward the start (outside) of the disk, how much difference   
   > would it make whether /accounts is adjacent to it, or all the way at the   
   > end (inside) of the disk? I come from an era when minimizing seek time   
   > and saving bytes mattered. :-)   
      
   	It did in the days of SCSI on Amiga but probably not so   
   much in modern FOSS/Linux times.   
   >   
   > BTW thanks for the "get your non-UEFI hardware now" FYI and thread!   
   > That's what spurred me to get a new system now, instead of later in the   
   > year as I'd been thinking. It made a difference to at least one user.   
   >   
   > Adam   
      
   	I hope I can wait until FOSS/Linux can deal with UEFI as   
   easily as with BIOS to get a new machine (aside from a tablet).   
      
   	bliss   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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