From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com
On 06/22/2012 08:56 PM, Moe Trin wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2012, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandriva, in
article
> , Jim Beard wrote:
>
>> Moe Trin wrote:
>
>>> "Look" at the amount of memory is has/supports. You may also find
>>> it useful to have wireless capability.
>
>> Looking around on the Web rather than in the store, I am finding
>> both HP and Dell offer 8GB memory and 1TB SATA hard drive. All
>> seem to have wireless capability.
>
> For memory and disk, I'm seeing as small as 2 GB to 12 GB and 320 GB
> to 2 TB installed. One store is offering a Hitachi Deathstar (2 TB
> ATA600) drive for only $110, and 16 GB DDR3 memory for under $100.
>
>>> I've got a HP G62-340US...which has ... a 101 key and touch-pad,
>>> I find it less comfortable than the run-of-the-mill 101 key and
>>> mouse of the desktop. YMMV
>
>> This is an area of potential concern, and one I think requires
>> physical access to the exact model being considered. I hate bad
>> keyboards.
>
> Well, we can't all have Model Ms even if they were made today - but
> this is one place where I've had minor grief from HP. Their keyboards
> (both in the laptop and the desktop) just don't _feel_ right - mainly
> key spacing. The fact that they put several keys in "dufferent"
> positions - that's just a fact of life - keymaps can mostly fix that.
>
>> If I wound up with one, I think there are USB or bluetooth keyboards
>> and mice that could be added, but that adds to the stuff you have to
>> carry around and impairs convenience considerably, not to mention the
>> addition to the original cost.
>
> I replaced the one on the desktop, just for that reason - cost wasn't
> that much. But it's a real hassle with a laptop. My wife uses a USB
> keyboard with her ASUS laptop if possible, and I've considered it for
> the HP - the main problem I encounter is that I use the laptop away
> from home and the bag used to cart the laptop around is already bulky
> enough without an extra keyboard. I'm even carrying a 15' 16/3-SVT
> extension cord, because two places I frequent have power available
> but not in a "convenient" location.
>
>> My understanding from press coverage is that some Lenovo equipment
>> was found to contain design "features" (or bugs, maybe) that would
>> facilitate unauthorized access.
>
> but were they windoze related, or something down at the BIOS level?
> I rather doubt that some windoze malware would run very easily in a
> *nix - how would it get started, even assuming a static compile as
> opposed to any shared library? Files and handles are simply not in
> the same place, nor work exactly the same.
>
>>> We nearly bought a Samsung - the HP was slightly cheaper and had a
>>> bigger drive at the time. My wife has an ASUS K50IJ (about 2 years
>>> old) that is quite similar to my HP.
>
>> I may see those before I finish my survey and take a selection.
>
> The ASUS models being advertised this week by several brick/mortars
> are not very interesting and low end models. A quick scan of the
> ads in Friday's paper only shows HP, Dell and Lenova in the 17.3"
> display, and the HPs are AMD processors. The selection in the 15.6"
> display are more diverse.
>
>>> Japan's on your list - Dull is on mine. The more expensive i5 is
>>> probably worth it over the i3.
>
>> Any particular reason?
>
> Well, the i5 is a better processor than an i3, but I guess you're
> asking why Dell is on the list - we've had some after-sale service
> problems. Still a problem or not - don't know.
>
>> I can get a Dell or HP at about $200 off the list price, but for HP I
>> have to take whatever is in stock at the brick-and-mortar. I can get
>> the full range with the discount via Dell's website, and that looks
>> to be significant. The store offers i5 cpu and 500 or 640 MB HD on
>> its top laptops for the two, but the Dell website offers i7 and 1 TB
>> HD, at modest increase in price.
>
> In the stores here, they're mostly i5s with a couple of i7s. Disks are
> mainly 500 GB, with two 750s and one 1 TB model.
>
> [retaining windoze]
>
>> My wife argues (with some truth in it I suppose) that I may need
>> interoperability with M$ software or equipment made to work with
>> it. I think it would be quite rare, but inconvenient if I needed
>> it and did not have it.
>
> Certainly we're not going to argue with your wife (I've got my hands
> full arguing with my own) but we haven't needed the interoperability
> in quite some time.
>
>> I still have one more brick-and-mortar to visit.
>
> One thing I miss about the Bay area, is the two freebie computer
> newspapers (the bi-weekly "Computer Currents" and the monthly
> "Microtimes") - both were about 11 x 16 inch, several hundred pages,
> and 95 percent ads. You were able to compare price/specs very
> easily - just took an hour or three to scan the ads for the item
> you were interested in.
>
> Old guy
Sorry to tell you those both vanished with the end of
the dot com boomlet. I have a couple of issues from each on
my shelves and I used to read them end to end. I remember
when they had Commodore 8-bit articles and Amiga columns.
But when too many local companies lost their markets
we lost both of those magazines.
However if I know what i want I can search the WWW,
from Amazon to Zareason(which is a Linux builder in the East
Bay). If I had about 2.5 X the cash I would spend Zareason
is a good place to spend it.
On my second try I got my mandriva-linux-PWP-2011-x86_64.iso
downloaded without corruption 8 hours for each. So as soon as i
catch up with the overnight correspondence.
bliss
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