From: adam@address.invalid
Moe Trin wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2012, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandriva, in
article
> , Adam wrote:
>> Big news here is still the new box [...]
>> I'm now installing Mandriva 2011.0 on it for the third time.
[...]
>> One of those wasn't my fault, as running pm-hibernate with Smart Boot
>> Manager installed screwed up the Mandriva install beyond repair.
>
> Is this related to having the UPS bring the system to hibernate rather
> that simply shutting down cleanly?
Yep, I was seeing whether pm-hibernate and Smart Boot Manager could
coexist on /this/ box. I'm making a list of things to do before I can
consider "stolid" completely "set up", and also have to make a few
changes to eris (e.g. fstab). For now I have both computers using
dynamic IPs within 192.168.1.0/27 and IIRC the default VZ DNSs. That's
one of numerous things I have to work on.
>> I want some kind of boot manager so I can choose which partition to
>> boot (and don't want to be tied to any particular Linux's GRUB for
>> that), and there don't seem to be many that support Linux.
>
> Not sure why GRUB isn't working for that.
GRUB would work. OTOH if I used the GRUB that was part of Mandriva
2011.0, and later on wanted to replace Mandriva 2011.0 with something
else, I'd have to redo things with some other GRUB.
> Mentioned, with the amount of RAM you have, I wouldn't be expecting to
> need swap-space. Also mentioned, some installers default to creating
> swap in /dev/shm. See what's in /etc/fstab
No mention of swap in stolid's /etc/fstab. Maybe the lack of swap space
is why "hibernate" (not "pm-hibernate") does nothing.
>> Which I think is why just being able to plug my external HD into one
>> USB port on the other system and my flash drive into another USB port
>> is IMHO the best idea.
>
> I'm not following you - if the stuff on the external is tarballs, all
> you can do is copy those to the flash drive. You won't have the
> capability to extract the tarballs unless the other system has extra
> software to do so.
I know -- which is why I have, on an ext3 partition on the external HD,
programs for Macs and Windows to extract from tarballs. (The Windows
one I can check in a Windows VM; the Mac one is trickier as the only
Macs I have access to are the ones on campus where I don't have root.)
I /may/ put a hot backup on the external HD too, but copying any of it
to a VFAT flash drive means all the permissions and other inode info get
lost on the flash drive. OTOH I have a file in /etc (part of each
backup) that's "ls -lAR / > /etc/allperms" so at least I have a record
of all the permissions.
[eris]
>>> the advantage of having a UPS. [...]
> To me, being able to ride through those momentary flickers of power
> makes it worth-while.
I'll have to see how much eris actually gets used, and how important a
UPS would be for what is a secondary system. Maybe on eBay... :-)
>> I ran badblocks on the 3 PATA HDs in my parts collection. Now I have
>> a noisy but usable 20 GB and a 60 GB salvaged from "retread". I'll
>> add the 60 but there's not really much one can do with a 20 GB HD
>> these days.
>
> I dunno - that's more than enough for swap ;-) Having it on a
> separate drive would also be faster.
I installed the 60 GB PATA drive into eris (which is sda, bumping its
original 120 GB SATA HD to sdb) and now have to figure out how to
partition it, although I will have it include the swap for the distros
on the original HD.
>> "eris" also needs a new mouse, as the Logitech cordless laser
>> mouse's middle-click doesn't work.
>
> Can you tell the mouse configuration to use chording to emulate the
> third button?
Probably, but I'm not sure it would be worth the trouble. I'll try the
three corded ones in my parts collection (all working AFAICR).
> I've been using cheap PS2 mice instead (Kensington - about
> $6 a pop for a wheel mouse). [...]
> Fortunately, they're cheap enough to be throw-aways.
That's another option for me. eris has PS/2 connectors for mouse and
keyboard; stolid has only USB. Remember serial connectors for mice?
>> I believe eris has a 64-bit Celeron, so it /may/ accept 64-bit OSs.
>
> 'uname -p' - but I'd look at the beginning of the boot log.
[adam@eris ~]$ uname -p
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 420 @ 1.60GHz
[adam@eris ~]$
The Intel website says: Instruction Set 64-bit, but adds "64-bit
computing on Intel® architecture requires a computer system with a
processor, chipset, BIOS, operating system, device drivers and
applications enabled for Intel® 64 architecture." Specs on the
motherboard and its Intel GC945 chipset don't say anything about either
32 or 64 bits.
Which log(s) should I be looking in, and what should I be looking for?
/var/log/syslog mentions both 32 and 64 bits, but that's under the
32-bit version of Mandriva 2010.0.
>> I installed the 64-bit Mageia 2 on it without a problem. OTOH I don't
>> know whether a 64-bit OS would be any advantage when it's now limited
>> to 1 GB RAM. Well, I can have fun (?) trying.
>
> I'm not sure there is that much of a difference between 32 and 64 bit
> versions - but the 1 GB itself will seem slow compared to the new
> system never mind the (likely) slower CPU.
I'm also thinking -- what if the 32- and 64-bit releases of some distro
or app are significantly different (e.g. bugginess)? That's something
no amount of testing as 32 bits would disclose.
>> In other technology news, my dinosaur laserjet seems to be complaining
>> of some peripheral problem.
>
> Is it related to the new system?
Not related to any computer -- apparently the add-on Ethernet interface
board (or whatever it was called back then) has failed. Fortunately
it's trivial to replace, and there are many on eBay. I bought a NIB one
for $15 that should be here by Thursday.
>> eris is now in the other room and successfully running with Wi-Fi.
>
> That's good. Is it still able to talk to the LJ5?
Well, before the CLJ5 died, if I asked eris to print something there,
the printer's data light would start flashing (meaning there's some
connectivity), but after a minute or two the light would stop and
nothing got printed. Gotta look into that.
Adam
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