From: adam@address.invalid   
      
   Maurice Batey wrote:   
   > On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:48:26 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:   
   >   
   >> whether   
   >> it has secure boot, enabled by default, with no way to disable it.   
   >   
   >    That's the big concern, yes indeed...   
      
   Would a simple test be: find a store with the model(s) you're   
   considering on display, reboot it (ctrl-alt-del), and either check   
   through the hardware setup settings or try to boot it from an "unsigned"   
   live CD?   
      
   BTW Windows 8 machines won't be shipping to the public until at least   
   November, so I'd guess anything bought before then won't require "secure   
   boot".  Meanwhile, I'm wondering how long it will be before some cracker   
   finds and exploits some vulnerability in "secure boot", rendering it no   
   more secure than any other boot.   
      
   Adam   
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