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   Adam to unruh   
   Re: OT: Network Setup (was part of: OT:    
   27 Sep 12 22:31:12   
   
   From: adam@address.invalid   
      
   unruh wrote:   
   > On 2012-09-27, Adam  wrote:   
      
   Thanks for replying, Bill!  The latest news here is that the problem   
   with wired connections turned out to be -- a bad cat5e cable between the   
   computer and router.  I replaced that, and now the distros that had no   
   connection (including Mageia) now have a working wired connection and   
   the latest updates.  I want a working wireless connection for all the   
   distros on this box, though, as this is my "test" system (named "eris")   
   which will soon be going back to the other room where there's only   
   wireless connectivity.   
      
   > You need to give more information. What wireless card does your computer   
   > use? What wired card? Do you have the driver modules loaded for them?   
   > What is in /var/log/messages when you try to connect?   
   > What are you trying to connect to?   
      
   Yep, those are good questions.  The ones that I don't have an answer for   
   yet, I need to look into.  "eris" has a wired card as part of the   
   motherboard, and I've had no problems with that under any distro I've   
   tried it with.  Its PCI wireless card is a Ralink which uses the   
   rt2661.bin driver which I had to download from the Ralink web site, and   
   that driver's loaded in the two distros which have a working wireless   
   connection.   
      
   Now the part where I need to find more answers.  (I'm using another   
   distro to write and post this.)  The Ralink rt2661 driver is installed   
   in Mageia but from looking at its /var/log/messages file, Mageia /may/   
   be trying to use the rt61pci driver instead.  The most common relevant   
   messages there seem to be "device is not ready" and "link beat not   
   detected".  I'll reboot into Mageia and investigate some more.  I'm   
   trying to connect first to my router, since all my 'net traffic passes   
   through that.  All works fine with a wired connection, but so far a   
   wireless connection can't even successfully ping the router.   
      
   > Note that the draknetcenter on Mageia is somewhat broken in that the   
   > netcenter display does not keep up with the status of the connection,   
   > and it will always say that the connection times out, even if the   
   > connection was made. Look instead at the state of the network applet on   
   > the task bar, which does keep up.   
      
   Oh, okay.  Thanks for letting me know!   
      
   > You can also try just running ifup-eth directly.   
   > (as root to   
   > ifup-eth wlan0   
   > for example, assuming wlan0 is the wireless)   
      
   I've tried ifup, but not ifup-eth.  Another thing to look into.   
      
   >> TJ said the updates to Mageia 2 include a better "wireless config"   
   >> helper.   
   >   
   > I have not seen any improvement.   
      
   My mistake, TJ said it had been /updated/.  I naively assumed that meant   
   an improvement.   
      
   >> Destination    Gateway        Genmask        Flags Metric Ref  Use Iface   
   >> 0.0.0.0        192.168.1.13   0.0.0.0         UG    5      0     0 eth0   
   >> 169.254.0.0    0.0.0.0        255.255.0.0     U     5      0     0 eth0   
   >> 192.168.1.0    0.0.0.0        255.255.255.192 U     5      0     0 eth0   
   >   
   > And you think you have no connection why?   
      
   That's fixed now, but I thought so because ping lost many packets, and I   
   couldn't get to any web page at all, not even the router's main menu.   
      
   > It even one ping gets through then the problem is not your network   
   > connection. You are looking at the wrong place for solving your   
   > problems.   
      
   Yep, I was.  I wouldn't have thought to check the cat5e cable if Jim   
   Beard hadn't suggested it.   
      
   >> I can't be the only person that has more than one computer plugged into   
   >> a single router!   
   >   
   > IF the two computers have the same IP address, then your system will be   
   > very very confused, and your symptoms will be exactly what you have now.   
   > All connections MUST have different ip addresses.   
      
   Since posting last evening, I've made "eris.aplomb.invalid" 192.168.1.23   
   for the wireless connection, and "eris-wired.aplomb.invalid"   
   192.168.1.24 (for the distros with a wired connection).  Since I know I   
   can't use both of them at the same time, in /etc I have files   
   hostname-wired and hostname-wireless, and hostname itself is just a link   
   to whichever of the two is appropriate at the moment.   
      
   Adam   
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