From: adam@address.invalid   
      
   Moe Trin wrote:   
   > On Wed, 07 Nov 2012, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandriva, in   
   article   
   > , Adam wrote:   
      
   [modem-init]   
      
   >> 'mdminit' will /definitely/ get mentioned in netzero-juno.txt 1.3.1!   
   >   
   >  suggest using AT&F vs ATZ   
      
   I'm leaving that up to the user -- it's either their default of ATZ, or   
   an unspecified "something else".  There's lots on the web about modem   
   commands and init strings already.   
      
   [boot with wireless]   
      
   >> The [CentOS] boot messages still report failure both for   
   >> the wireless device and for ntpd, but by the time it gets to the   
   >> level 3 login prompt there's a message that wlan0 is up.   
   >   
   > OK - slow bringing things up   
      
   Slower than other brands/methods of Wi-Fi interfaces, or just slower   
   than wired?   
      
   >> BTW my neighbor on SSID "frrggl" has switched to channel 4, which I'd   
   >> guess had something to do with my using channel 9.  The other 4 or 5   
   >> neighbors with Wi-Fi are still on 1, 6 or 11.   
   >   
   > Depends - mentioned before, using 4 catches interference from both   
   > 1 and 6, while 9 catches it on 6 and 11.   
      
   "stolid" and its peripherals are running over 90% of the time and during   
   all of that, the router's transmitting on channel 9 (even if most of the   
   time eris isn't on to receive it).  Perhaps whoever's in charge of SSID   
   "frrggl" said "Hey, somebody's using channel 9 most of the time, and   
   that interferes with both channels 6 and 11.  I'm going to set my system   
   to use channel 4 so the other guy's channel 9 won't interfere with me."   
     (That sound plausible?)  Most of my neighbors seem to have their   
   wireless transmitters off most of the time, but when they're on, it's   
   channel 1, 6, or 11.   
      
   [new systems not coming with internal modems]   
      
   > Less parts, less labor, less warranty costs   
      
   And something most purchasers won't miss.  Over the years, parallel   
   printer ports, RS-232 ports, and even PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports have   
   been phased out, and I suspect VGA may be heading that way.   
      
   >> Dialup is sufficient for my aunt and uncle (who just celebrated their   
   >> 64th anniversary BTW).   
   >   
   > Wow!  Congrats to them.   The November issue of AARP Bulletin mentions   
   > a Pew Research Center study that concluded more than half US seniors   
   > over 65 are on-line - news, search-engines, and social sites.   
      
   My aunt really isn't active online.  "Too confusing" and that's from   
   someone who was an RN in ICU & CCU where the equipment was probably more   
   complicated and certainly more critical.  My father's active online   
   although mainly for email and checking financial websites.   
      
   BTW you mentioned being left-handed -- that aunt is left-handed and   
   married a man who's left-handed, but both their kids are right-handed. I   
   think their grandchildren are righties too.   
      
   >> Also, they're snowbirds, and have enough problems getting their POTS   
   >> activated and suspended each year.   
   >   
   > Only use it for a month or few?   
      
   I /think/ their ISP is Earthlink dialup, so I'd guess they pay the same   
   monthly fee regardless of where they happen to be.   
      
   > One person he spoke to was a farmer somewhere out in the Boonies   
      
   I just wrote a story set in the L.A. area and I wanted to work the   
   phrase "out in the tules" into it, until I realized it would confuse   
   rather than clarify.  There's one scene in "The Grapes of Wrath" where a   
   character, although not far from civilization, is /literally/ out in the   
   tules.   
      
   ['route' vs 'ip route']   
      
   Within the script, I've decided to just test for and use /sbin/ip and   
   /sbin/route, which are totally independent of any PATH settings.  I can   
   see I ought to recommend invoking my scripts with their full paths   
   "/usr/local/bin/netzero" in case /usr/local/bin isn't in either path.   
      
   > What happens if you try "sudo echo $PATH" (may need funny quoting)?   
   [...]   
   > Does the '-i' option do anything useful?   
      
   Nothing useful, no.  Also, there seems to be no way for 'sudo' to return   
   root's path.  Besides the built-in echo, there's also /bin/echo but sudo   
   won't find it.  I tried Mandriva, CentOS and Debian with a variety of   
   commands and quoting, and results were /mostly/ the same.  The only   
   command by user 'adam' that consistently returned root's PATH was "su -l   
   -c 'echo $PATH'" (without the double quotes, and the single quotes   
   around 'echo $PATH'.  However, "su -c 'echo $PATH'" returned adam's path   
   on Mandriva and CentOS, but on Debian it returned root's path.  I don't   
   understand the inconsistency (or which response is correct), but that   
   would seem to make shell scripts non-portable.   
      
   Also, Debian seems have the only 'sudo' (out of seven distros I checked)   
   where the "insults" parameter actually makes any difference.  It reminds   
   me of MTS (Michigan Terminal System, a S/360 replacement by U-M) which   
   actually had a "display insult" command, among other surprises.   
      
   I finally got my stereo system hooked up.  It was disconnected for the   
   carpet replacement over a year ago.  (For digitizing the LPs and   
   cassettes, I only used a minimum of connections.)  It turns out the   
   receiver's balance and volume pots are noisy, so it may not have been   
   worth it.  Fortunately I still have a little "contact cleaner" spray left.   
      
   [dieting]   
      
   >> Some of the transplant meds cause weight gain (from increased hunger).   
   >> Also, I like food, and I'm not exercising much.   
   >   
   > Some of that can be cured by will-power, but yes I know EXACTLY what   
   > you mean about liking food.  That's one reason I've gone for the   
   > portion controls.  There are all kinds of frozen meals you can buy   
   > that are filling and satisfying, but for the most part they aren't   
   > that good for you (example, extremely high sodium content, higher than   
   > desirable fat content, and so on), never mind that they tend to get   
   > boring after a while.   
      
   Back when I was pre-dialysis, I met with the hospital's outpatient   
   dietitian several times, and she said the "Healthy Choice" frozen meals   
   were okay for the days I didn't feel like cooking, although the sodium   
   was higher than she'd like.  They have a decent selection.   
      
   > Occasionally, I'll substitute a single serving package   
   > of nuk-able pop-corn (100 calories says the box).   
      
   I ended up buying a hot-air popper (hard to find these days, but a local   
   Ace franchise has one).  Again, has nothing except what I add, and also   
   a lot cheaper.  However, portion control is needed.   
      
   Adam   
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