From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 11/30/2012 08:10 AM, Maurice Batey wrote:   
   > On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:22:19 -0500, Adam wrote:   
   >   
   >> Early personal   
   >> computers required entering a program in binary using toggle switches.   
   >   
   >    Not quite as bad as that when I was working on the EE DEUCE in   
   > 1959!   
   >   
      
   	Yes but Adam are talking the homebuilt computers before the Apple One.   
     You could add tape readers eventually, or finally even   
   disk drives but the start up involved entry by toggles to the best   
   of my knowledge.  Home computerists were fanatical which later   
   showed up as religion as of Apple, Commodore 64, Amiga, Atari   
   and a few other brands that fell beneath the wheels of the MS/DOS   
   juggernaut.   
   	Gates first product was a BASIC on paper tape if I recall   
   correctly.  It was widely pirated as I recall, bothering the   
   Gates no end.  Unlike Linus he was not doing it for fun and   
   education.   
      
   	bliss   
      
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