From: ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid   
      
   On Wed, 09 Jan 2013, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandriva, in article   
   , Jim Beard wrote:   
      
   >Perhaps backup storage in the "cloud"?   
      
   I've seen a good number of reports that way - some have regretted it   
   deeply when the cloud goes tits up, or the sites have access problems   
   due to government regulation. The recent issues of the Risks Digest   
   (news://comp.risks) have a number of interesting reports.   
      
   >A lady with years of genealogy research results had her ancient   
   >computer go kaput. Yes, she had backups, but the replacement   
   >computer would not run her equally ancient software.   
      
   Same problem here - the pest-control service I've been using for over   
   ten years lost his office computer. He certainly knows about insects   
   but is relatively clueless about computers. Remember how win95 could   
   run win3.1 programs? No... 3.1??? Luckily, I've got paper   
   receipts showing I've been paying him.   
      
   >She now parks three family-tree-style gedcoms on the web   
   >(application-independent standard format stuff) plus has backup   
   >in the cloud (a data center "somewhere") for recent changes.   
      
   Risks Digest 27.03 29 Sep 2012   
    Subject: The Anti-Cloud?   
    Symform is offering cloud storage services on the front end,   
    but instead of operating their own cloud on the back end,   
    they store data in unused space on other customer's drives.   
      
   Now we'll ignore the issue of one cloud subscriber storing his pr0n   
   and wAreZ in the cloud and it ends up on your computer where your SO   
   discovers it, but you do surrender a lot of legal protections and   
   rights to the data when it is stored off-site. Strong encryption gets   
   around a lot of the protection issues, but you have little control of   
   data being copied and inspected. Just ask General Petraeus.   
      
   >With disks at 1TB, backing up to DVDs at under 5 GB each is not real   
   >practical if you have lots of data. My music collection at 66GB could   
   be put on DVD, but i will rely on re-rip from the old CDs instead,   
   >should that be needed.   
      
   You still have the time problems, but copying a 1 TB internal to a 1 TB   
   external (USB 3.0) isn't going to take all night, and even USB 2.0 is   
   faster than most home networks, never mind the connection to the world.   
      
   >I am not ready to transfer backup to the Cloud yet, but I do have   
   >two computers each with a 1T disk that basically is nothing but   
   >backup (hot backup for stuff that I want readily available) plus   
   >a 1T external WDC Mybook that provides the third backup.   
      
   Good step   
      
   >The one thing I do not have is off-site storage.   
      
   Got relatives or such elsewhere? My sister and I are off-site for   
   each other - 2000 miles of "off-site". Of course when Sandy went   
   through back in November, I lost access to them because power and   
   phone outages "there"... but what could go wrong? ;-) (I've also got   
   backups 750 miles away near Sacramento with a sister-in-law, but that's   
   a different set of disasters).   
      
   >If my brick bi-level house on sloping ground is destroyed by fire,   
   >flood, or other disaster and I lose both computers plus the external   
   >HD and my DVDs and old CDs, I will take it as an indication that I   
   >need a fresh start on personal data holdings.   
      
   I've got to agree with TJ - if you don't have trustworthy friends or   
   family in a different disaster scenario, external drives with   
   enormous capacity are small and cheap. and can fit into the small   
   safe-deposit box at a nearby bank or similar. Yes, I do remember   
   when backup tapes (and later on, floppies) took the best part of a   
   cubic foot of space, but those days are gone.   
      
    Old guy   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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