From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 02/04/2013 02:48 PM, Aragorn wrote:   
   > On Monday 04 February 2013 22:53, Bobbie Sellers conveyed the following   
   > to alt.os.linux.mandriva...   
   >   
   >> UEFI with Secure Boot does solve three security problems.   
   >> 1) the danger of Microsoft losing market share.   
   >> That is the big reason.   
   >   
   > I would say that this is the /only/ reason, and that the other reasons   
   > cited by the proponents of UEFI are in fact just a spin.   
   >   
   >> 2) the danger of technical personnel losing money repairing   
   >> computer that Windows users have let go to hell.  Maybe these guys   
   >> have complained to MS or Intel?   
   >   
   > No, not a chance.  But you have to look at the bigger picture.   
   > Microsoft, Intel, Hewlett-Packard and others have already been in this   
   > boat for much longer.  Look up on the "Trusted Computing Platform".   
   >   
   > It's the age-old "problem, reaction, solution" approach to pushing an   
   > agenda.  Create a problem by way of a proxy, await the reaction from the   
   > public, and then step up to offer "the solution".  Governments do it,   
   > and corporations do it.   
   >   
   >> 3) the danger that a private someone with a Linux boot-disk   
   >> of several distribution accessing another Linux or other x86 machine   
   >> for their private enrichment and impoverishing the user of said   
   >> machine.   
   >> Note that I say private person.  Forensic and Government   
   >> snoops will have no problems with getting the disks they need   
   >> to invade our privacy.   
   >   
   > And that latter statement is exactly what nullifies the first one,   
   > Bobbie.  Government and/or law enforcement will always require a back   
   > door which allows them to snoop, so it's pretty pointless to advertise a   
   > security system with titanium bolts on your front door if you're going   
   > to have to leave the back door open. ;-)   
   >   
   >> [UEFI, ed.] is meant to take control of your wallet dump your   
   >> money right to Microsoft.   
   >   
   > It's not about the money, Bobbie.  Microsoft already has way more money   
   > than they could ever spend.   
      
   	Now the rulers of MS might say that but I assure you   
   they are of the ilk to which no amount of money is ever enough.   
      
   Besides they have plenty to spend money on, Pinkie, like *Taking   
   Over the World.*   
   	Pinkie and the Brain, one is a genius and the other   
   is insane but which is a genius and which is insane or are   
   they both simply mad as hatters.  Or maybe as mad as Ballmer.   
      
   >   
   > It's about power, both legal and technical.  It's about the monopoly,   
   > the pushing of an inherently flawed-by-design operating system   
   > completely owned and controlled by Microsoft - which gives them legal   
   > leverage over what you can and can't do with your own computer - and   
   > sufficiently flawed to...   
   >   
   >    a) keep the anti-virus/anti-malware industry - a sector which   
   >       Microsoft itself has by now also already ventured into - in the   
   >       running; and...   
      
   	And none of the anti-virus programs/systems are able to keep   
   up with the productivity of the virus devisors.   
      
   >   
   >    b) offer both governments and criminals a way to exploit the IT   
   >       infrastructure - i.e. Microsoft plays ball with DARPA and other   
   >       alphabet soup agencies for cyberwarfare by way of botnets, as well   
   >       as offering shady organizations a means to conduct their cyber-   
   >       terrorism.   
   >   
   > It's not difficult to understand.  There's a war going on between good   
   > and evil, and Microsoft is simply providing for the battlefield - or   
   > stadium, if you will - for a small fee to both parties, so that they can   
   > manipulate the outcome of that war as Microsoft sees fit.   
   >   
   > Think of it like of an arms dealer, or if you will, a major bank.  They   
   > supply their wares (or their financial sponsoring) to both the criminals   
   > and to the cops, or to both the invaders of a nation and to said   
   > nation's defense forces.  It's called hedging. ;-)   
      
   	Well Microsoft sells to anyone with cash.   
      
   	bliss   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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