XPost: alt.os.linux.mageia   
   From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 02/10/2013 06:13 AM, Ar wrote:   
   > On 10/02/13 01:03, Jim Beard wrote:   
   >>> There is no demandfor THEIR "secure" boot BS.   
   >>   
   >> Maurice,   
   >>   
   >> Not true. The number who need a "secure boot" method is small, but those   
   >> folks carry a lot of weight. There was a major argument over whether it   
   >> was even possible to do what those folks wanted, and echos of that   
   >> arguments reached where I sat inside the Defense Department. Theoretical   
   >> demonstration that it would be possible (but quite expensive) put the   
   >> wheels in motion, and we are seeing the results today, years later.   
   >   
   > If the DoD want a secure Windows (hah!), they can pay Microsoft for it.   
   > The rest of the computing community DO NOT want locked down shit like   
   > has happened to phones and tablet junk.   
   >   
   > I want to run Linux, or BoOS or anything else I choose, I moved from   
   > Microsoft to Linux because they were taking control from the users.   
   > Pandering to Microsoft plays into their hands.   
   >   
   > The politicians are bought, so will do nothing.   
   >   
   > Kill secure boot junk now, or live in your walled garden shit controlled   
   > by Microsoft.   
      
   	Secure Boot is in place on all new Windows 8 machines.   
   	How do you propose to "kill it off"?   
      
   	A lot of industrial users trying to avoid espionage   
   will be delighted to have secure boot, the rest of the   
   Windows and Mac users will be going right along with the   
   herd and buying the dramatically advertised Windows 8   
   toys.  Only not so many as before because of all the   
   OSes in the world they picked Windows 8 and it is widely   
   known to be the sucky-est Windows update since before   
   the turn of the millennium.   
      
   	The fees paid by various organizations to MS are   
   one time matters afaik,   
      
   	If you want to run Linux without secure boot no   
   one is stopping you as there are millions of computers   
   available without it on the second hand market or at   
   computer recycling centers.  And as soon as the procedure   
   for shutting it off are clearly understood the rest of   
   the x86 computing devices will be available as well   
   which is exactly what is being done by the Linux Foundation   
   and the various distribution paying Microsoft for   
   a signing key.   
      
   	bliss   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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