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   Message 29,049 of 29,919   
   Moe Trin to Jim Beard   
   Re: OT: Off-Topic   
   18 Feb 13 21:54:33   
   
   From: ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid   
      
   On Mon, 18 Feb 2013, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandriva, in article   
   , Jim Beard wrote:   
      
   >Moe Trin wrote:   
      
   >> What is this "moisture" of which you speak?   Mentioned in my reply   
   >> to Adam, I don't do that much wood work that does get exposed to   
   >> water,   
      
   >Relative humidity over 70 percent, or (in cold weather) high   
   >enough to get condensation, "dew," and such.   
      
   1:51 PM at Deer Valley airport (North side of Phoenix)  Temp 72, Dew   
   point 23, relative humidity 15%.  (Yes, they're talking about a chance   
   of showers Wednesday, but at the same time, the National Weather   
   Service has issued a "Red Flag" warning for the Southern half of the   
   state - meaning a severe risk of wild fires due to low humidity and   
   moisture levels, and high winds.)  Repeat - what is the "moisture"   
   thing?   ;-)   
      
   >Normal wood-worker's glue does not hold up real well under such   
   >conditions.   
      
   >But much of that is due to failure to have properly-matching   
   >surfaces, or due to failure to properly and tightly clamp the   
   >pieces together until the glue soaks in (yes, permeability of the   
   >wood also makes a difference) and cures.   
      
   That's also going to depend on the type of glues used.   I'm far from   
   even an experienced amateur, but the stuff I've built has lasted.   
   Some of the problems can also be laid at the manufacturers who don't   
   supply much information about their products, but they're also just   
   responding to the way the customers ignore such documentation anyway.   
   I've actually seen broken clay or concrete roof tiles glued back   
   together using a (wood) panel glue (Liquid Nails).   
      
   >Done right, furniture made with wood-worker's glue does fairly   
   >well outside and lasts forever indoors.  But the gluing is not   
   >always done right.   
      
   No!   Really?   ;-)   
      
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