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   Moe Trin to All   
   Re: OT: Off-Topic   
   21 Feb 13 19:48:24   
   
   From: ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid   
      
   On Wed, 20 Feb 2013, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandriva, in article   
   , TJ wrote:   
      
   >Moe Trin wrote:   
      
   >> TJ wrote:   
      
   >>> It seems that Realtek's driver module, built for an earlier kernel,   
   >>> the only module I've used that makes the dongle work anywhere near   
   >>> right with Mageia 2,   
      
   >> Have you had any other module work with other distributions?   
      
   >I haven't tried a distro other than Mageia since Mageia came out.   
   >Haven't wanted to.   
      
   Anything in the past?  Any hints on a search engine?  The slower speed   
   you mention implies it's working at USB 1.0 or 1.1 standard.  There   
   was support for USB 2.0 in the 2.4.19 kernel (Aug 2002) but USB things   
   didn't take off until the 2.6.0 kernel (Dec 2003).   
      
   >> That's a ``requirement'' of USB.  Essentially, USB might be able to   
   >> scream at 5 GB/sec (USB 3.0), but the entire link works at the   
   >> speed of the slowest peripheral.   
      
   >Didn't know that. My cordless keyboard/optical mice (also USB) must   
   >be faster than I thought. Never noticed any slowdown when using either   
   >set.   
      
   It's a serial bus - so everyone on the bus has to be talking at the   
   same speed so that they know when they can talk, and if "that" message   
   is "for me" for "someone else".  It's just the bus that's talking "at   
   speed". The hardware can be poking along at a speed where 2400 B/sec   
   is fast enough (keyboard data is byte wide, but how fast can you   
   type?).  The USB modems I have (56k plain old telephone) are USB 2.0   
   and that means they can talk at 480 MB/sec...  over the telephone...   
   right.   It _does_ mean a speed increase over RS-232, because that   
   protocol is essentially limited to 115200 B/sec, and a 53k telephone   
   connection with data compression (v.42bis or v.44) can pump bits 4   
   to 6 times faster - meaning ~320 KB/sec max.  My phone lines aren't   
   that great, but I can see 25 Kb/second FTP transfers fairly often.   
      
   >> You might complain to the boss/owner, but I understand he's equally   
   >> a stick-in-the-mud.   
      
   >Oh, you've met him?   
      
   Not personally, but _everyone_ I've spoken to in Onondaga county tells   
   me that.   ;-)   
      
   >>> But for the time when I do, it's time to start looking for a PCI   
   >>> card, like I should have done in the first place.   
      
   >> One of the things I managed to get done in the days before we moved   
   >> in to this place is install plastic (Sched-40) pipe in the walls, so   
   >> now I can fish in fiber if I wanted to   
      
   >This house is over 100 years old. Two stories of lathe and plaster   
   >walls. Trust me when I say that, even with a cellar, it's easier to   
   >work with a PCI card than it is to put pipes and wiring in the walls.   
      
   Single floor here, with R-38 insulation (12" blow-in) above the   
   ceiling line - and none above that (uninsulated roof). There is R-19   
   (6" glass roll) in the exterior walls, but not interior.  Even with   
   powered ventilators (thermostatically controlled fans), the temps can   
   be brutal up in the attic.    Actually, I do have experience with the   
   type of construction you speak of - my oldest sister's first house was   
   a two story wood frame farm house built around 1867 on a hilltop in   
   Connecticut. The cellar was dirt floor, and the "insulation" was   
   crumpled newspaper (in the exterior walls only). The main timbers in   
   the house were enormous (12 x 12 elm center floor beams, 6 x 6 beams   
   from center to sill, and the roof joists were taper cut maple (2 x 3 at   
   the peak, 2 x 6 at the sills on 12" centers and ruined by having nails   
   at ~6" spacing so you could hang tobacco leaves to air-dry - the nails   
   having rusted over the years - oh, and no ridge beam at the peak of the   
   roof).  When they bought it in 1950 (for $5100 with no garage, but a   
   chicken coop/shed/privy in the back and a 6 acre lot) there was running   
   water in the kitchen and tiny bathroom only and just two (15 A 120 V)   
   circuits in the fuse box.    I got conned into helping re-wire the   
   place.  Lucky for me, I was in Florida when my brother-in-law and his   
   father modernized the plumbing and replaced the wood-fired hot-air   
   furnace.  But hey, it had _two_ working fireplaces on the ground floor.   
      
   >The Dell has one PCI-E slot and two PCI slots, all empty at the   
   >moment.   I should be able to find something that would work.   
      
   Yes, I'd expect so, though I've no experience with them.  802.11n   
   would be desirable, but "works with Linux" is the key.   
      
           Old guy   
      
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