From: TJ@noneofyour.business
On 02/21/2013 09:58 PM, Moe Trin wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandriva, in
article
> , TJ wrote:
>
>>> Anything in the past? Any hints on a search engine? The slower
>>> speed you mention implies it's working at USB 1.0 or 1.1 standard.
>>> There was support for USB 2.0 in the 2.4.19 kernel (Aug 2002) but
>>> USB things didn't take off until the 2.6.0 kernel (Dec 2003).
>
>> I've only had the dongle about a year, a year more recently than I
>> switched to Mageia. The driver I downloaded from Realtek is supposed
>> to support kernel 3.0.8. Mageia is up to 3.4.something.
>
> 76735213 Oct 25 2011 linux-3.0.8.tar.bz2
>
> 3.4 is a long term kernel - introduced May 20, 2012, and updated every
> week or three - the "latest" update is
>
> 80179995 Feb 21 18:12 linux-3.4.33.tar.bz2
>
> while 3.0.x is up to 3.0.66 released a few minutes before 3.4.33.
>
I don't mess around with kernels myself - that's what I have the crack
Mageia staff for. ;^) Actually, a new kernel update just came down from
that crack staff last night. Mageia is now at 3.4.32, upgraded from
3.4.24. That's the "server" kernel on this machine, as chosen by the
Mageia 2 installer. Back with Mandriva 2010.x I experimented with the
server vs. desktop kernels, and saw no visible difference in operation
or performance on my machine, so now I just go with the installer's
choice. The computer I use with the dongle uses the desktop kernel,
which I assume has had pretty much the same upgrade.
I looked at the changelog for that new kernel, and I saw that they did
something with the rtl8192cu module, the one that never worked right for
me. Memory is fuzzy, but I believe it said something like "changed USB
ID." Does that make sense? Also, I noticed something about rtlwifi, but
I don't remember what.
I'll give it a try later today or tomorrow just to see what happens. But
not this afternoon. The NY Farm Show is at the state Fairgrounds, and I
need to go look for bargains.
>
>> My grandfather bought this place in 1948, and they made the place over
>> into a duplex, with my parents living upstairs. I've heard stories of
>> how they did have indoor plumbing, if you could call having to go
>> outside and around to the back of the house "indoor."
>
> Well, it certainly beats a hand pump in the shed at the back of the
> kitchen and a two-holer behind the house. That was my fraternal
> grandparents place about 20 mile NNW of Philadelphia. I think it was
> a 50th anniversary gift from the children that installed an electric
> well pump in 1946 or so. The last time I remember visiting that place
> was in 1951 and they were still using the privy. I drove by in ~1980
> while on a business trip and the house looked unchanged from the road,
> but the privy was gone.
>
Yeah, youngsters in the U.S. these days, especially those from the whiny
lower and middle classes that complain so loudly about what others have,
just don't realize how good they have it, how much better than much of
the rest of the world.
>> I didn't come along until 1949, and didn't pay attention to such
>> things until years after the work was done, so I can't verify the
>> stories.
>
> I know it wasn't unusual for the semi-self-taught to do work like
> that. I know that my father did some wiring in the house we were
> living in in 1945, 'cause that's where I received my "initial
> training" in working with BX cable.
>
Well, my grandfather was a farmer, the type who wouldn't pay somebody to
do something he could figure out himself. Some folks called him
self-reliant; others just said he was cheap. I understand some of the
same things are said of me. I consider it the highest of compliments to
be compared to him.
>>> Yes, I'd expect so, though I've no experience with them. 802.11n
>>> would be desirable, but "works with Linux" is the key.
>
>> This dongle is supposed to "work with Linux." I've come to learn the
>> painful lesson that there's "works with Linux," and then there's
>> "works with Linux." And those two phrases can mean two entirely
>> different things.
>
> That is so VERY true. I usually look for stories from users who
> actually got the thing to work.
>
>> Found a "new" Dell PCI card on eBay for $10 this morning. Actually a
>> re-branded Asus WL 138G V2, which just happens to be the same card I
>> have in my brother's computer, and it works great with Linux.
>
> Such a deal!
>
I thought so. I'm hoping the antenna from the dongle, which has a gain
of 7 db, will exchange for the one with the card, which is 5 db, IIRC.
Not that I'll probably need the extra gain, but what the hey?
>> Wireless G is all I need. My Linksys router is G. The signal is above
>> 90% all over the house, and I'm told is fully usable out the windows
>> to the veggie stand roughly 100 feet from the house.
>
> 802.11g is capable of 54 MB/sec which actually translates to a
> practical 20-25 MB/sec through-put. You're probably far enough away
> from other wireless links that you don't have interference. This is
> running in the 2.4 GHz ISM band along with cordless phones, microwave
> ovens, wireless keyboards/mice and Bluetooth stuff. 802.11a is using
> the less-crowded 5.7 GHz band, and 802.11n can use either or both bands
> combined for more bandwidth. The higher frequency can be an advantage,
> but most people wouldn't notice the difference. As for those reported
> signal levels - LARGE helping of salt with that. RF people rarely
> measure signal levels in linear units (volts or watts or fractions
> thereof), preferring a log scale (decibels referenced to a level like
> one milliwatt) as being more practical.
>
My ISP uses wifi, remember? His antenna/router that supplies service via
ethernet cable to my router sits in a window about four feet away. The
"antenna" is inside a plastic box, roughly the size and shape of a
telephone book - the older thicker ones. Another just like it sits
mounted at the peak of my barn across the street, aimed toward the hill,
not my house, but I'm supposed to be close enough that even the side
signal is plenty. Don't know the frequency, never cared to find out, but
my adapters can detect the network from my barn/window and the one from
the top of the hill two miles away. Oh, and somebody's much weaker Tlink
router, which has to be at least 1/4 mile away (nearest neighbor). But
they don't seem to interfere - ever.
As for the signal levels, I've always figured it was some kind of
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