From: ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid   
      
   On Fri, 22 Feb 2013, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandriva, in article   
   , Jim Beard wrote:   
      
   >TJ wrote:   
      
   >> Yeah, youngsters in the U.S. these days, especially those from   
   >> the whiny lower and middle classes that complain so loudly about   
   >> what others have, just don't realize how good they have it, how   
   >> much better than much of the rest of the world.   
      
   >Yup.  And all those who rail about pollution from automobiles   
   >should read the writings on the coming catastrophe for civilized   
   >life in New York City in the 1890s.  Seems horses (and oxen) left   
   >behind a little pollution of their own.   
      
   Yabbut it was bio-degradable!     (I picked up a book titled "Good   
   Old Days, My Ass" - ISBN 978-1-4403-2224-2, 2012 - that doesn't cite   
   sources, but one "fact" states that "In 1900, New York City was home   
   to 150,000 horses, which produced more than three million pounds of   
   manure a day".  If you think about it, those numbers really don't look   
   unrealistic.)     Actually, there is some evidence about the problem   
   of auto pollution - when I was learning to fly in the San Francisco   
   bay area in the early 1970s, visibility was frequently below the 3   
   miles required for "flight in visual conditions". (And no, I'm not   
   talking about the famous San Francisco fogs.)  By the late 1980s, such   
   was much less common, in-spite of more population and more cars in use.   
   (The SF bay is a large valley with surrounding hills in excess of   
   2000'/600 meters above the bay, which tends to trap the crud   
   in the air and make it more noticeable.  The "Los Angeles basin" is   
   even worse in that regard. Even though Phoenix lacks the population   
   density, the Valley of the Sun has even higher surrounding hills on   
   the down-wind side, making it nearly as bad.)   
      
   >My father went back to college on the G.I. Bill for a B.S. in   
   >animal husbandry in the early 1950s, and to provide a bit more   
   >money to support the family worked part time in the cow barns.   
   >In one of his required "liberal arts" classes, there were enough   
   >snide remarks about his appearance and aroma when he arrived   
   >after 2 or 3 hours work that he made it a point to walk through   
   >the cow sh*t before heading for that class.   
      
   A lot of people tend to ignore the less desirable conditions of their   
   work-place - whether it be farm, factory, or even a hospital.   
      
           Old guy   
      
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