XPost: alt.os.linux.mageia   
   From: BitTwister@mouse-potato.com   
      
   On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 04:21:08 GMT, unruh wrote:   
   >   
   > Looking at a few of them on Mangeia 2, there is nothing about runlevel   
   > in them. There are a bunch of directories   
   > default.target.wants/ getty.target.wants/   
   > basic.target.wants/                  graphical.target.wants/   
   > bluetooth.target.wants/              multi-user.target.wants/   
   > dbus-org.bluez.service@              sockets.target.wants/   
   > dbus-org.freedesktop.Avahi.service@  syslog.service@   
   > default.target@   
   > with links inside each to the some of the /lib/systemd/system files. But   
   > of course it has nothing which tells you of the link between those and   
   > runlevels.   
      
   Heheh, it'll make sense after learning systemd and memorize yet more stuff. :(   
      
      
   > They took something which was a bit klunky, but clear and made something   
   > which maybe less klunky but totally obscure,   
      
   Yup, I'll second that.   
      
   > and thus HIGHLY susceptible to bugs and misconfigurations.   
      
   That I do not know. Suse, redhat, fedora, mandriva, mageia and   
   who knows who else is headed that way. Only good news I see from it,   
   would be standardization of unit files which would have to work before   
   developer/coder can run a go/no go test.   
      
      
      
   > I install stuff that is ready for use. I do not have the time to debug   
   > (I have done enough of that) but need it to work.   
      
   I understand, but you might be running an app which nobody has tested   
   yet. I have been running my three systems with betas and for the most   
   part they have been pretty solid. What problems that were show   
   stoppers had workarounds within a day or so.   
      
   >> Depends, the short list   
   >> ls -al /etc/systemd/system/*   
   >   
   > And how do I interpret that? I have noidea what "basic.target.wants"   
   > means. What is basic? What is a target? What does "wants" mean. Too cute   
   > by far. And a complete ratsnest of cross links jumping all over the   
   > filesystem.   
      
   Yup. can not argue there. Doing a  " systemctl --all --full | sort "   
   is somewhat daunting.   
      
   Mageia 2 end of support is in November. Looking at   
   https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_3_development   
   suggests to me, everyone needs to test their hardware and the apps   
   they use now.   
      
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