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   unruh to Bit Twister   
   Re: FYI [OT] Mageia 3 Beta 3 released.   
   13 Mar 13 04:21:08   
   
   XPost: alt.os.linux.mageia   
   From: unruh@invalid.ca   
      
   On 2013-03-13, Bit Twister  wrote:   
   > In alt.os.linux.mageia, you wrote:   
   >> On 2013-03-12, Bit Twister  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> Nope instead we have /lib/systemd/ and /lib/systemd/system, and   
   >> /usr/lib/systemd, ....   
   >   
   > Do not forget the /etc/systemd/system/ override directories   ;)   
   >   
   >>   
   >> And I still do not know how to tell which runlevel any of the services   
   >> are actually started up in. It may somehow be in some configuration   
   >> file.   
   >   
   > Again, each unit file has the [install] definitions. As to what each   
   > target wants, try ls -al /etc/systemd/system/*   
      
   Looking at a few of them on Mangeia 2, there is nothing about runlevel   
   in them. There are a bunch of directories   
   default.target.wants/ getty.target.wants/   
   basic.target.wants/                  graphical.target.wants/   
   bluetooth.target.wants/              multi-user.target.wants/   
   dbus-org.bluez.service@              sockets.target.wants/   
   dbus-org.freedesktop.Avahi.service@  syslog.service@   
   default.target@   
   with links inside each to the some of the /lib/systemd/system files. But   
   of course it has nothing which tells you of the link between those and   
   runlevels.   
      
   They took something which was a bit klunky, but clear and made something   
   which maybe less klunky but totally obscure, and thus HIGHLY susceptible   
   to bugs and misconfigurations.   
   Sheesh.   
      
   Anyway, enough rant. I guess others have ranted and been totally   
   ignored already.   
      
      
   Where is Linus when we need him.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >> OK, I looked at mageia 2. Mageia 3 is not out yet.   
   >   
   > Hmmm, Mageia 3 beta 2 been out for a month.  :)   
   > Mageia 3 beta 3 is now out in Cauldron. 8-)   
      
   I install stuff that is ready for use. I do not have the time to debug   
   (I have done enough of that) but need it to work.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >>> Unit file indicates your desire via   
   >>> [Install]   
   >>> WantedBy=Your_desire_here   
   >>   
   >> So I have to read the content of the files,instead of just being able to   
   >> look in a directory.   
   >   
   > Depends, the short list   
   > ls -al /etc/systemd/system/*   
      
   And how do I interpret that? I have noidea what "basic.target.wants"   
   means. What is basic? What is a target? What does "wants" mean. Too cute   
   by far. And a complete ratsnest of cross links jumping all over the   
   filesystem.   
      
      
      
      
   >   
      
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