XPost: alt.os.linux.pclinuxos   
   From: jdbeard@patriot.net   
      
   On 04/18/2013 10:45 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
   > On 04/16/2013 06:26 PM, Jim Beard wrote:   
   >> On 04/16/2013 04:59 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
   >>> On 04/15/2013 09:10 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
   >>>> On 04/13/2013 09:42 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
   >>>>      But then it went away or at least the damn home   
   >>>> directory was   
   >>>> munged and back to work.   
   >>>>      haven't managed to configure my home Thunderbird yet   
   >>>> so back to work.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>      bliss   
   >>>>   
   >>>      Well I got it re-installed at the SF-LUG meeting earlier   
   >>> this   
   >>> (Monday)evening, shut it down with Hibernation and back at home,   
   >>> it is running OK.   Not fully configured yet but much closer.   
   >>>   
   >>>      I frankly would rather be using Mandriva 2013.01 but   
   >>> looks like   
   >>> that is not going to happen so...   
   >>   
   >> Actually, Per Oyvind Karlsen has released a "preview" of   
   >> something, that   
   >> he calls Moondrake.  That is Open Mandriva's cooker, bundled. I   
   >> would   
   >> not recommend you install it unless you wish to really be on the   
   >> bleeding edge of something that may go away entirely.  The Open   
   >> Mandriva   
   >> Association will at some point release a new version, but as   
   >> you observe   
   >> that may not happen soon.   
   >>   
   >> If you prefer Mandriva, may I suggest Magea 3.  The Beta 4   
   >> release is   
   >> currently serving me well (on my backup machine, not my   
   >> "production"   
   >> machine).  There are currently 40-odd "critical" bugs holding   
   >> up the   
   >> release, but many of those have been fixed and are just   
   >> awaiting testing.   
   >>   
   >> When Magea 3 is released, I intend to buy a laptop (it will have a   
   >> 17.3-inch display for my old eyes, leaning toward an AMD A8   
   >> cpu, hp for   
   >> the keyboard which I like better than the Dell keyboard, would   
   >> be nice   
   >> if it had Win7 for dual boot rather than Win 8 but the latter   
   >> seems to   
   >> be the default on machines with the A8- cpu).  If Magea 3 installs   
   >> nicely and works on that, I will probably install it on my two   
   >> desktop   
   >> machines.   
   >>   
   >> Cheers!   
   >>   
   >> jim b.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >      Well Jim I would do the same but all the new higher powered   
   > systemd are going to be using UEFI with Secure Boot so right now   
   > Fedora   
   > 18 and Kubuntu/Ubuntu 12.04.2 and 12.10.2 are the only bootable   
   > distros   
   > on those machines.  Of course Mageia 3 may be able to deal with that   
   > using the Linux Foundations tools but most likely it will require   
   > that   
   > you use the tools and then boot the Linux.   
   >      New versions of 'buntus are due shortly according to my   
   > informant.   
      
   Well, your experience with Mandriva 2011 PLUS and mine were quite   
   different, but our systems are different and trying to   
   trouble-shoot from opposite coasts did not seem worth the effort   
   for either of us.   
      
   Our hopes (I would like to say expectations, but that may be too   
   strong) regarding Mageia would likewise seem different.  When the   
   release happens, I will settle in and try to do some serious   
   installing.  If I get a Winblows 7 system all should go easily.   
   Otherwise, if possible, I will simply disable UEFI and (somehow)   
   finesse a way to boot into Winblows if I need it.  I will not   
   have secure boot for Linux, but should be able to allow Win8 its   
   preference when it is the chosen system for boot.   
      
   I don't think I am going to fool with the *buntus.  Fedora Core   
   should do all I really need, and I can do without the nice   
   non-essentials.  In extremis, I suppose I could leave Linux for   
   FreeBSD, but going all the way back to UNIX without getting   
   System V Rel 4 (enhanced!) would seem pointless, in that I really   
   do not need the efficiency nor the security possible with UNIX   
   and it woud involve considerable effort to go back to it.   
      
   Cheers!   
      
   jim b.   
      
      
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