From: mnieuw@zap.a2000.nl   
      
   On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 07:15:37 +0200, Aragorn wrote:   
      
   >On Monday 24 June 2013 22:47, sctvguy1 conveyed the following to   
   >alt.os.linux.mandriva...   
   >   
   >> Aragorn wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Monday 24 June 2013 06:30, Mat Nieuwenhoven conveyed the following   
   >>> to alt.os.linux.mandriva...   
   >>>   
   >>>> [...]   
   >>>> Anyway, I don't like that the user interface on Linuxes changes ever   
   >>>> faster. Why can't it stay the same for 10+ years? That at least is   
   >>>> one plus point for Windows XP, [...]   
   >>>   
   >>> Windows XP is EOL, and the user interface of Microsoft Windows has   
   >>> been different with every new release.  And let's not even get into   
   >>> the GUI for Windows 8. ;-)   
   >   
   >> Aragorn, the GUI pretty much stayed the same from Windows 95, NT4,   
   >> Windows 98, and Windows 2000.   
   >   
   >Yes, but Windows XP had a different interface, and Windows Vista   
   >introduced an even more different interface, and Windows 7 is even more   
   >different, and Windows 8 is even more different, and - as I have read   
   >recently - the upcoming Windows 8.1 will be even more different,   
   >returning to the classic desktop paradigm with a taskbar and a "Start"   
   >button.   
   I have used XP (at work) in Windows 'classic' mode so it looked much like NT,   
   and Win7 I have set up similar. I still don't understand why in Vista/Win7   
   they moved things around compared to XP. Many the same things, different   
   place. Change for the purpose of change, that was my impresssion.   
      
   >> I used to have Windows 2000 Professional on my OS/2 Boot Manager list,   
   >> just for those times when I needed it because of my schools constant   
   >> use of Word for all documents!  Other than that, it was OS/2 all the   
   >> time until 2009, when I went for Mint "Gloria" KDE then to PCLOS KDE.   
      
   I'm still running OS/2 (eComstation now) also, since Warp 3 (1994 or so) the   
   interface is pretty stable.   
      
   >On account of KDE, I don't think that it has changed so much over the   
   >years.  Yes, the widgets are a little different and it has evolved, but   
   >it has done so gradually over the years.  I am running KDE4 now, and   
   >some things are different from KDE3, but not to the extent where it   
   >becomes hard to use, nor to the extent that you cannot get a similar   
   >look & feel anymore as you used to have.   
      
   I might take another look, but never liked KDE for some reason. Gnome 2 was   
   OK.   
      
   >GNOME on the other hand, I agree, has changed a lot.  But then again,   
   >the GNOME developers don't care much for consistency, nor for user-   
   >friendliness.  Linus Torvalds himself has already chastised the GNOME   
   >team over that on two separate occasions, and as I understand it, he is   
   >currently using KDE4 because he hates GNOME3.   
      
   Mageia 2's desktop was what cause me to drop Mageia.   
      
   >I don't think too many other GUIs on GNU/Linux have changed radically   
   >over the years ever since I started using GNU/Linux myself.   
   >Enlightenment, yes, but you can tune that to your liking and get   
   >whatever look & feel from it you want.  But the plain window managers   
   >such as BlackBox/FluxBox and WindowMaker, or desktops like XFCE and LXDE   
   >also still pretty much look the same.   
      
   H'm, those last two might be an idea, thanks.   
      
   >Perhaps Mat was referring to Ubuntu, which has introduced an all-new   
   >user interface called Unity on top of the GNOME3 codebase, and which has   
   >more in common with GNOME3 than with any of the other desktop   
   >environments.  But then again, Ubuntu is either way not to be   
   >recommended as a distro anymore due to Canonical's decision to include   
   >spyware and adware in it, even though it's removable - but not by a   
   >GNUbie, and you need to Google for the instructions yourself.   
      
   Mint Mate looks Ok so far. I've never liked Ubuntu, made me think too much of   
   "Canonical knows what is good for you". I see there a Mint 13 LongTimeSupport   
   supported until 2017, I'll see what the Xfce version looks like.   
   Although I'm still mad about Mint 15 (presumably Parted) screwing up my   
   extended partition.   
      
   Mat Nieuwenhoven   
      
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