From: ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid   
      
   On Sun, 18 May 2014, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandriva, in article   
   , Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
      
   >Moe Trin wrote:   
      
   >> I've been able to find laptops under $350. It's not the "only"   
   >> computer in the house, so I don't especially need the highest   
   >> horse-power with lots of shiny.   
      
   > My situation is that this HP Pavilion Touchsmart notebook is   
   >the most powerful computer in the studio apartment I live in with   
   >a part-time roomie.   
      
   Sounds like my mother-in-law (retired floor nurse) up on Larkin near   
   Lombard in the mid-'90s. I think she had about 180 square foot. My   
   wife is still working full time, and though retired I occasionally   
   moon-light, so there's three laptops in addition to the desktops.   
      
   >The other computers are an Android TF700 Pad with keyboard dock that I   
   >dumped last year's savings on and a broken Dell Inspiron   
   >4K/ TF700 was a big disappointment for me but I may let the shop try   
   >to install Arch or another Linux.   
      
   We've looked at several notepads, but haven't been able to come up with   
   a realistic justification to actually buy one. Re: the Dell, I assume   
   you've verified it's not a mis-seated connector or similar.   
      
   > This computer was bought retail with a discount of $130,   
   >A 4 core AMD A10, 8 GiB of ram and 750 GiB of hard disk.   
      
   That's almost as potent as the newest desktop here.   
      
   >What I wanted was a real update to about an full i7 but while the Yoga   
   >Pro 2 was nice and light with great flexibility it was way too   
   >expensive   
      
   That's part of the price of high horse-power and small size. Neither of   
   us is using compute-intensive stuff, so even an i5 is somewhat over the   
   top. I will admit I like the smaller unit when I have to carry it   
   around, but we're putting up with a 15.6" screen and the battery to   
   power things for a reasonable amount of time.   
      
   >The Compaq weighs 6.5 lb. this is a pound lighter and it has   
   >a battery that lasts twice as long.   
      
   Bingo   
      
   >I would have much preferred at least a 1920 x1200 screen but   
   >I can work with the 1368 x 768.   
      
   How soon we forget the years of using a 640x480 on a 15" CRT boat   
   anchor, and when 1280x1024 on a 20" Sony Trinitron was the ultimate   
   dream. Obviously it's going to depend on what you're using it for,   
   but most of our usage is text based, and the lower resolution sort of   
   matches the smaller screen size. The desktops here have 24, and 27 inch   
   displays (at 1920x1200) but the one I use most is a 20 inch at 1600x900.   
   With that, even a 316x82 character display is usable (though I normally   
   run it at 199x52 character maximum at full-screen). The HP laptop is   
   1368x768 and that gives 140x40 character at the default full-screen.   
   Most of the time in any of the systems, I'm working in an 80x25   
   character terminal. ;-)   
      
   > One thing I should have checked was the accessibility of the   
   >hard drive but I have found out from the User Manual that the whole   
   >damn computer has to be taken apart to get to the HD.   
      
   Again (I think), the price of the size.   
      
   > So unless my health circumstances change I will have to   
   >haul it to the shop to get the Hybrid terabyte drive in there(if ever).   
      
   We don't keep that much on the laptops - when we get home, the stuff we   
   want to keep gets transferred to the network file servers. They've got   
   terabyte drives now, and are backed up to my sister's systems on the   
   East coast, We also have several USB drives - Fry's was advertising a   
   1 TB HGST Touro MX3 USB3 external for $50 last week here in Phoenix.   
      
   >> Specific problems?   
      
   > Well the problems varied but it seems the scripts fail either   
   >in finding usable hardware or packages on the install disk.   
      
   OK - so far, I haven't run into much that way. I still haven't been   
   able to get the camera working on my 3 year old HP (a G62-340US), but   
   as I've not found a need for it, I'm not missing it much ;-) We've   
   been buying the same hardware that our employers do, so we can usually   
   install the company O/S (her's is Debian based, mine Red Hat-ish) with   
   minimal grief.   
      
   >> 'sudo -c passwd' and set root's password.   
      
   > Thanks for the hint but I doubt I can access a full graphical   
   >root session even with a root password but I will try it later like   
   >tomorrow.   
      
   Never liked the idea of root running a GUI, but that could be a PAM   
   issue not wanting root logins - something in /etc/pam.d/login perhaps?   
      
   >I sure did mess that up. I messed up other stuff as well   
      
   Yup - see another in your vcard ;-)   
      
   >Then when I came back to the computer and by the way now have a root   
   >account, And it was pretty bad,more to do. Back to /home and   
   >Mozilla hates the certificate issuer for eternal-September so I had to   
   >create an exception.   
      
   Ray had posted some comments/recommendations in the   
   "eternal-september.support" news group last month. Look back about 125   
   articles from "now" (I think, around 11 Apr).   
      
   >I wrote most of that this afternoon after reading the stuff you guys   
   >wrote.but then could not send reply so I had to deal with that.   
      
   I see Jim Beard replied in a.o.l.pclinuxos. A "dumb" question for you:   
   Other than for warranty purposes, do you _need_ to keep windows on the   
   system? We replaced the hard disk on our newest desktop (with a   
   larger one naturally), so if warranty service is needed I can reinstall   
   it, but that's the only reason we have any windows O/S. The laptops   
   got an image backup (live CD doing 'dd' to an external) and were then   
   wiped. The BIOS setup was recorded to paper and stored in a safe place   
   for use if needed.   
      
    Old guy   
      
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