From: dimke.fax@uni.de   
      
   Am Sat, 12 Dec 2015 07:52:16 -0800 schrieb Bobbie Sellers:   
      
   > On 12/12/2015 01:19 AM, Markus R. Kessler wrote:   
   >> Hi there,   
   >>   
   >> I've played around a little with open-Suse, where the files like   
   >> mencoder, dvdbackup and so on, the files we know as belonging to the   
   >> PLF / Zarb repository and its mirrors, are provided as "community   
   >> repositories".   
   >>   
   >> Well, this means, that such packages still exist and are adapted to fit   
   >> to new OS versions. Now I'd like to try some steps with open-Mandriva   
   >> 2014, but there are some questions open, not knowing if it makes sense   
   >> to completely move to that distro:   
   >>   
   >> # 1   
   >>   
   >> It seems that there's no newer version out than 2014?   
   >   
   > 	2014.2 x86_64 as of 6/15/15  They have ruined Mandriva's   
   > name.   
   >   
   >> It looks like bugfixes are only provided via "updates" directories, and   
   >> you have to install the old stuff from DVD first and then overwrite it?   
   >   
   > 	Sounds like it.   
   >>   
   >> # 2   
   >>   
   >> What the hell means Mandriva "LX"? -- I cannot find any explanation for   
   >> that therm.   
   >>   
   >>   
   > 	LXDE is the virtual desktop manager for Open Mandriva. Open   
   Mandriva   
   > 	has very few developers   
      
   I'm not surprised to hear that.   
      
   And there are even more things that do not fit together at all. For   
   example, the source code repo isn't on the same level as the binaries'   
   repos. The sources are located at a completely different position within   
   the directory tree on their server. You won't find it without their help.   
      
   But, hopefully, LXDE is not the only desktop manager?   
   At least there should be a chance to install XFCE instead, which has lots   
   of really helpful addons like (notebook) power manager etc.   
      
   >> # 3   
   >>   
   >> On rosa.ru server there is, indeed, a mirror backup of the former Zarb   
   >> / PLF repository, where you can get the packages needed for video   
   >> processing like mencoder, mplayer, dvdbackup and many more. But, the   
   >> last revision you find refers to Mandriva 2011. So, the question is, is   
   >> there any newer version, or should one try to install the old stuff   
   >> from Mandriva 2011 on open-Mandriva 2014?   
   >   
   > 	No.  PCLOS has all the tools you would need though you   
   > might have to download.  Not sure that the Mageia repositories do but   
   > they are pretty good.  If you have plenty of video memory and memory in   
   > general Full Monty has nearly every concievable tool   
      
   Good to know. Thanks!   
      
   So, it seems to be a matter of personal preference, if you either choose   
   PCLinux or Mageia. Both are significantly better supported than open   
   Mandriva, and they both are up to date, right?   
      
   >> Any hint highly appreciated!   
   >>   
   >> Best regards,   
   >>   
   >> Markus   
   >   
   > 	Which hardware Markus?   
      
   Oh, really difficult question -- It sounds funny, but, including all my   
   notebooks, even the Raspberries, workstations and servers, honestly said,   
   I don't know the exact number of machines I currently own :-)   
      
   But the machines relvant for this task are from 2007..2010 and have 64   
   bit single, up to quad-core processors from AMD or intel and have SATA   
   interfaces and PCI express slots inside.   
   Any OS should run on them.   
      
   Btw, when working with open Suse, I got stuck with some scripts I used   
   for years to recalculate video files from VOB to mpeg4-avi. They can   
   strip off ads for other movies, scale down the bit rate, exclude audio   
   tracks in languages I don't understand anyway etc, and hence have a   
   compression factor of at least 10. So I can archive even "subprime class"   
   movies on some storage systems to faster retrieve them.   
      
   These scripts refuse to work on Suse, because due to license aspects,   
   they excluded some codecs, and so the scripts are pointless now.   
      
   On Ubuntu similar happened. The developers were not afraid of trouble   
   with licenses, but had unsolvable depedency issues with their libraries.   
   Finally they simply threw off the whole mpeg4 lib.   
   Same regarding Twinkle VoIP client. This one is compiled based on QT3   
   library, and they did not get it run together with QT 4 / 5. So, they   
   simply stripped off the whole graphics GUI and released a pure   
   commandline based TEXT version (!)   
   Whaaaa... What can you do with such a distro?   
      
   > 	On my old machine which quit when the SATA interface failed   
   > I was happy with PCLOS but when my new machine was UEFI I switched to   
   > Mageia.   
   >   
   > 	If you have an older machine with the MSB rather than a newer   
   > machine with UEFI or EFI then PC Linux OS 2014.12 in 32 or 64 bit is the   
   > best.  You will have lots of updates.   
   >   
   > 	If you have UEFI then get Mageia 5.  Read the   
   > instructions online about UEFI machines and how to set them up. You will   
   > have lots of updates including recent kernels.   
   >   
   > 	TexStar is supposedly working on UEFI facilities for   
   > the PCLOS but nearly a year now...   
      
   What I am looking for is a system like Mandriva 2009.1, which on some of   
   my machines is still in use. Therefore I learned to create my own   
   installation packages to be able to bugfix / update the systems and even   
   get foreign packages which were never meant to run on this old OS.   
      
   I admit, it's fun to work like this, but this cannot be done infinitely   
   long. I should switch to a new system, which fully replaces that older   
   system, capable of doing all the multimedia stuff like mp3 lame,   
   mencoder, mplayer, VoIP, bash / perl / python /c++ programming, and all I   
   forgot to mention.   
      
   Thank you all for any ideas and hints!   
      
   Best regards,   
      
   Markus   
      
      
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