From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 04/04/2016 05:37 PM, Doug Laidlaw wrote:   
   > Bobbie Sellers  Wrote in message:   
   >> Hi typers and readers,   
   >> 	   
   >> 	Remember I got PCLinux64 OS KDE 2016.03 installed to my hard drive   
   >> alongside a Mageia 5?  Also a broken Windows 8.1.   
   >>   
   >> 	Well on the Mageia front a Mageia 6 dev1 x86_64 was released last week.   
   >>    I was reading all about in the Mageia newsgroup and raised   
   >> a question.  I was told it was not yet at the stage where hard drive   
   >> installation was a good idea.  Better to run in emulation.   
   >>   
   >> 	So I have PCLOS practically speaking brand new so I loaded   
   >> up Virtual Box via the included Virtual Box manager tool and   
   >> got a very premature Mageia 6 running on my PCLOS 2016.03 in   
   >> Virtual Box.   
   >> 	Yesterday at the SF-LUG meeting Ken Schaffer(another old   
   >> Amigan) helped me get the networking connected and I got about   
   >> 633 updates once I got home.   
   >>   
   >> 	I will be keeping you guys up on this experiment with   
   >> Mageia 6 as I have more time to work on it.   
   >>   
   >> 	bliss   
      
   	So I installed a few more tools including the updated   
   LibreOffice, tried out a few things and had no problem except   
   for the slowness of the emulation.  I still have no reason to   
   be happy about KDE's Plasma 5 but what i care about might not   
   bother others.  I also added Kate but the Plasma 5 iteration   
   is still lagging behind the completeness of Plasma 4.   
      
   	I was running Firefox, Kate and LibreOffice Writer,   
   writing files and saving them.   
   	There was a single update called something like   
   "obsoletetask".   
   	The other day I was offered the chance to try   
   Wayland at startup and it did not work for me, sadly   
   enough, but in emulation it does not surprise me.   
   None of the Live! distributions with Wayland options has   
   worked with my notebook.   
      
   	PCLinuxOS which the Virtual Box is running on got   
   a goodly amount of updates and it remains rock solid. If   
   I didn't want to use the Virtual Box on it I might have   
   shifted over already.  	I doubt I could have setup the   
   Virtual Box successfully without the tool supplied on   
   PCLinux OS which downloaded the latest version and guided me   
   through setting parameters.   
      
   	KDE's Plasma 4 is very nice here and slightly   
   ahead of the Mageia 5's version.  The sad thing is that   
   as they move to later versions of Plasma the users lose   
   the ability to customize appearance as much as in the   
   past. I used to use some nice transparent appearance   
   'ware on my task panels.  KDE decided to change the way that   
   the panels interface with the system so that those lovely   
   transparent panels giving the appearance of icons and menus   
   floating around my close-up of a lovely blossom that I   
   use for a backdrop cannot presently be done.   
   	Why does KDE need to change so much I have no   
   notion, they had me with early version in 3.5.9 desktop   
   manager which we foolishly referred to as KDE.  Maybe   
   because we weren't smart enough to separate the product   
   from the Producers, they want more respect?   
   	Well they have it from me.   
      
   >>   
   >   
   > Keep it up, Bobbie.  Interesting that there were 633 updates   
   > after the release.  That is how it is in Cauldron.   
      
   	You asked for it.  Don't blame me if I get carried   
   away and give you TMI.   
      
   	I have seen similar numbers in the past in Mandriva   
   days of yore, using PCLinux OS earlier in the decade and   
   now from Mageia so I am not surprised.  I just note it   
   as of interest.   
   >   
   > I have Mga 6 installed on a separate partition, starting a few   
   > weeks ago with a boot iso.  It should be similar to your Vbox   
   > installation, except that I seem to have installed everything   
   > possible; the DVD acts as a filter.  It seems quite stable.   
   > There are a few new "goodies" in the repos.   
   >   
   > Doug   
      
   	With space on drives no longer at a premium as it was   
   in days gone by I think unless one is limited by work requirement   
   everything possible should be installed for desktops,  I usually   
   have to add a bunch of stuff to my install.  I wanted to get   
   the Full Monty into my notebook and see if I could shut down   
   the rigidity of the layout.  I would have most of the tools   
   I want then without needing to download a bunch more.   
      
   	On the Amiga I used to have to make separate 3.5 inch   
   floppies that would boot to run the applications that I could   
   squeeze onto that disk and save my output to another floppy.   
   Real fun started with the SCSI host card and a 100 Megabyte   
   hard drive. Now a 750 Gigabyte hard drive and 3 or more OSes   
   running one way or another,  Have to go buy a bigger drive   
   for backups.   
      
   		bliss   
      
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