XPost: alt.os.linux.pclinuxos
From: bliss@mouse-potato.com
On 10/09/2016 04:53 AM, Ikke wrote:
> Doug Laidlaw wrote:
>
>> Bobbie Sellers Wrote in message:
>>> On 09/26/2016 11:07 PM, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
>>>> Bobbie Sellers Wrote in message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read that the very first Mac was a PC as we understand it,
>>>>>> shipped as a kit in a crate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not as far as I know but the original Apple computer
>>>>> was sold in just that way as were many other home computers
>>>>> of the day. These were quite different and used switches
>>>>> to enter programs and binary lights to give results, I
>>>>> never used one but I used binary to read radiation counter
>>>>> in the lab. The Apple kit was more advanced with an actual
>>>>> keyboard as far as I know.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SNIP
>>>>>
>>>>> bliss
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have just reinstalled PCL
>>>> 2016.06 using the same UEFI
>>>> partition as Mageia. Installation was straightforward. My
>>>> download is of the MATE desktop. I can't recall why I took
>>>> it off before -- probably to make space for something else.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't forget to do the frequent updates.
>>> Two versions of Firefox in two days.
>>> A new Thunderbird if you use those tools.
>>>
>>> bliss
>>>
>>> --
>>> bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com
>>>
>>
>> Apparently, PCLOS doesn't update unless you tell it to. I have
>> enough to do, withouthaving its routine maintenance as well.
>> --
>
> That's strange: on PLCLOS I get the same exclamation mark in the panel bar
> as in Mageia. It requires however some more clicks to get the updates
> running than in Mageia that's true.
> I noticed that sometime the exclamation mark shows in a blue bullet, not a
> red-orange one. My guess it indicates that some updates are available, but
> those do not apply to your system. That's a guess, I didn't check.
>
> Note: if Mageia would install updates without me intervening, I don't know
> or remember, but I certainly would try to switch it off. I don't want
> anything to come in without me knowing and agreeing.
>
> Herman Viaene
>
That is my experience as well and my preference is to know what is
happening with the updates. Windows and Microsoft are the vendors of
machines(hard and soft) which do not bother to show the user clearly
what is being updated. Unlike in Windows in most systems you can check
what you are being informed is new otherwise i would not know about new
kernels and new versions of the tools I use nearly every day. And
sometimes you might have to log out or reboot on Linux but on Windows
you are stuck in a seemingly endless cycle of reboots to get Microsoft
updates installed.
On the Amiga I learned to apply patches to keep up-to-date on
the OS. I ran similar tools on that machine but had to pay for new
versions. Linux is an improvement for me on that system that my
contemporaries love indiscriminately.
The ultimate control over updates still lies in the Users hands
and if we wanted to unpack our various packages manually it would
increase the complexity of use in a way that would be unappealing.
PCLinux OS clearly states that using a terminal and apt-get
to do updates is not recommended by the way. On Mandriva we had to
use urpmi commands to get some needed libraries after conducting a
web search to find the singular library that would permit our
systems to run. Isn't that fun? ;^[
Well it was for me for a long time because I was learning. But such
updates certainly interfere with work or even play flow.
On Mageia I was able to get all of the tools I wanted with satisfied
dependencies if it was in the repositories. And the update
tool on Mageia put up a notice as does PCLinuxOS. I think I like
Synaptic better though.
bliss
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