From: bliss@mouse-potato.com   
      
   On 10/21/2016 05:48 AM, Doug Laidlaw wrote:   
   > William Unruh  Wrote in message:   
   >   
   >   
   >> If Mageia puts out crap, or something that crashes or is unuseable,   
   >> those followers WILL leave rapidly. KDE5/Plasma seems to be a mess   
   >> apparently, and the KDE people refuse to fix anything in KDE4, so the   
   >> Mageia team are caught  with legs on either side of a razor blade   
   >> fence.   
   >>   
   > Where can they go? It is the same KDE everywhere.   
   >   
      
   	KDE 4.14.18 on PCLinux OS 2016.03 with Linux localhost\   
     4.8.3-pclos1 #1 SMP Thu Oct 20 15:11:10 CDT 2016 x86_64 x86_64   
   x86_64 GNU/Linux, seems pretty sound to me.   
   	Yes certain parts have been neglected and there are   
   problems with parts of all systems as well as KDE/Gnome/Mate.   
   BTW the 4.8.3 kernel fixes an issue of long standing with   
   the Copy While Write problem,   
      
   	KDE 5.x at my last sighting was still a mess, If I ever   
   use it it in its present space will be so that I can run a VB with a   
   lighter weight Mandrake/Mandriva fork with a KDE 4,14.version.   
   	KDE 5 has some good features but I do not need a display   
   of program icons to make me feel familiar with the system (if i   
   started from a tablet or the Metro interface).  The choice of edit   
   on the listed items in Clipboard is nice too,   
      
   	I sincerely hope Mageia can pull a finished next release together soonest.   
      
   	bliss   
      
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