XPost: alt.os.linux.pclinuxos, alt.os.linux.mandrake   
   From: thorongil@telenet.be   
      
   On Thursday 28 June 2018 16:57, Bobbie Sellers conveyed the following to   
   alt.os.linux.mandrake...   
      
   > Hi readers and typers   
   >       I am using PCLinuxOS64 and what I mention here about KDE is only   
   > applicable to that distribution which is a Rolling Release.   
   >   
   >   Well I checked again today and one of the recent updates,   
   > 200+ on Sunday, restored the Time Copy function to the Digital Clock.   
   >   Thursday, June 28, 2018   
      
   Yes, this latest Plasma update should bump the version to Plasma 5.13,   
   and the ability to copy the time from the clock to the clipboard was   
   indeed announced as one of the features of 5.13.   
      
   But according to KDE themselves, 5.13 is the end of the road, barring   
   any patch level updates to fix more of bugs.  So that means that they're   
   already preparing for Qt6 and Plasma 6.   
      
   Plasma 4 was already fairly usable and stable by the time it hit 4.6,   
   and the 4.14 I'm using here is really, really good ─ safe for Akonadi,   
   which has always been a piece of junk.  (Duplicate mails, ghosted   
   duplicate mails that won't disappear until you restart Akonadi, and so   
   on.)   
      
   I therefore find it alarming that KDE needed to get Plasma 5 up to 5.12   
   first before it became stable enough for production use.  Anything   
   before 5.12 was simply put too unstable.  A simple Firefox crash could   
   easily take down the whole desktop.   
      
   >   Hurray.   
   >   And by the way my Firefox is at version 61 now if only kernel   
   > 4.17.3 works out well all will be swell.   
      
   As I understand it, the problems with many of the latest kernels are due   
   to the Meltdown and Spectre patches.  It appears to be an upstream   
   problem, rather than a distro-specific problem.  The people on the   
   Gentoo mailing list are also reporting crashes and other irregularities   
   with the latest kernels.   
      
   Best is to stick to one of the latest LTS kernels.   
      
   --   
   With respect,   
   = Aragorn =   
      
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