XPost: alt.os.linux.pclinuxos, alt.os.linux.mandrake   
   From: bliss@mouse-potato.com   
      
   On 06/28/2018 12:06 PM, Aragorn wrote:   
   > On Thursday 28 June 2018 16:57, Bobbie Sellers conveyed the following to   
   > alt.os.linux.mandrake...   
      
   	Set the follow-up to alt.os.linux.pclinuxos   
   >   
   >> Hi readers and typers   
   >>        I am using PCLinuxOS64 and what I mention here about KDE is only   
   >> applicable to that distribution which is a Rolling Release.   
   >>   
   >>    Well I checked again today and one of the recent updates,   
   >> 200+ on Sunday, restored the Time Copy function to the Digital Clock.   
   >>    Thursday, June 28, 2018   
   >   
   > Yes, this latest Plasma update should bump the version to Plasma 5.13,   
   > and the ability to copy the time from the clock to the clipboard was   
   > indeed announced as one of the features of 5.13.   
   >   
   > But according to KDE themselves, 5.13 is the end of the road, barring   
   > any patch level updates to fix more of bugs.  So that means that they're   
   > already preparing for Qt6 and Plasma 6.   
      
   	Well I hope they take a long rest after all this pointless effort,   
   since I see all the changes since 3.5.9 as pointless and amuse   
   themselves by finding and fixing the security aspects of the current   
   version(s).   
      
   >   
   > Plasma 4 was already fairly usable and stable by the time it hit 4.6,   
   > and the 4.14 I'm using here is really, really good ─ safe for Akonadi,   
   > which has always been a piece of junk.  (Duplicate mails, ghosted   
   > duplicate mails that won't disappear until you restart Akonadi, and so   
   > on.)   
   >   
   > I therefore find it alarming that KDE needed to get Plasma 5 up to 5.12   
   > first before it became stable enough for production use.  Anything   
   > before 5.12 was simply put too unstable.  A simple Firefox crash could   
   > easily take down the whole desktop.   
   >   
   >>    Hurray.   
   >>    And by the way my Firefox is at version 61 now if only kernel   
   >> 4.17.3 works out well all will be swell.   
   >   
   > As I understand it, the problems with many of the latest kernels are due   
   > to the Meltdown and Spectre patches.  It appears to be an upstream   
   > problem, rather than a distro-specific problem.  The people on the   
   > Gentoo mailing list are also reporting crashes and other irregularities   
   > with the latest kernels.   
   >   
   > Best is to stick to one of the latest LTS kernels.   
      
   	I use the latest functional kernel and always have   
   an older kernel ready to use if the new one gives me a problem.   
   Only once in the updates to deal with the Spectre and Meltdown   
   problems has a kernel failed to work.  I let Texstar know about   
   it and he was very accomodating but then I donate to the effort   
   to keep the work going.   
   	I haven't lost any work as far as I know to Plasma 5.   
      
   	bliss   
      
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