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   J.O. Aho to Fast Turtle   
   Re: anyone with amd64 using gentoo-sourc   
   29 Aug 07 20:36:42   
   
   From: user@example.net   
      
   Fast Turtle wrote:   
      
   > First off, as I stated, the issue appears to be due to the 64GB memory   
   > support in the vanilla-sources kernel. This is directly derived from the   
   > kernel docs, which state that x86_64 kernel now only includes full 64GB   
   > memory support and that all others are no longer available as options.   
   > Check the docs to see what I'm talking about.   
      
   AS far as I have noticed, the memory size support option is in x86 kernel, I   
   never had this option on PPC, Sparc or amd64.   
      
      
   > The amd64 minimal installer performance stank so bad (72+ hours to extract   
   > stage3 tarball) on this motherboard. Note that by pulling 2 sticks of   
   > memory, performance boosted significantly (about what vista64 did with 4x   
   > sticks).   
      
   The gentoo-sources is more or less the same as vanilla-sources, nowadays there   
   aren't many patches that is for x86/amd64, it feels that most of those are for   
   MIPS.   
      
   If it takes you more than a few minutes to unpack the stage3 tarball, then you   
   either have a hardware not supported properly in the kernel, breaking down   
   hardware or selected the wrong boot options for your hardware (acpi and apic   
   can in some cases be good to turn off, there are quite many other options to   
   try, just google for kernel boot options).   
      
      
   > It's due to the performance issues with the amd64 minimal installer along   
   > with the stage3 tarball that has me wondering if the gentoo-sources perform   
   > any better with the full 4GB memory installed as it certainly does work   
   > better with only 2GB of RAM installed.   
      
   As my laptop is the only amd64 machine I have, it does only have 1G ram, but   
   it's a lot faster than my intel based computer at work (also Gentoo with   
   gentoo-sources) and outclasses a co-workers vista infested intel based   
   computer (both intels are clocked far more than my laptop, but comparing mhz   
   is a bad way to compare computers, just google for the mhz myth).   
      
      
   > One thing to keep in mind is that this is an Intel Board using the ICH 8/9   
   > chipset and is full SATA (no IDE drives at all).   
      
   My laptop has two SATA hard drives too, quite nice to stripe those, far from   
   as lagish as those who uses microsoft.   
      
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     //Aho   
      
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