From: user@example.net   
      
   On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, AZ Nomad wrote:   
      
   > On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 07:08:33 +0200, J.O. Aho  wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, jf wrote:   
   >>> J.O. Aho wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   >> Had to use alpine to post this time, for some reason things works quite   
   >> badly after testing KDE4, even if I did rebuild and fix dependencies after   
   >> I had removed KDE4.   
   >   
   >   
   >>>> Yeah, sadly you have to uninstall the monolithic KDE3.5.9 which you have   
   >>>> installed and then install KDE3.5.10 meta as portage can't handle this   
   >>>> kind of changes.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Another option would be to remove the KDE3.5.9 from your   
   >>>> /var/db/pkg/kde-base, this way portage thinks you don't have KDE installed   
   >>>> and it will install the files over the current ones. This could lead to   
   >>>> some orphan files, but should be okey IMHO.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Thanks for your answer, I'll probably go for the 2nd option.   
   >>> But... did I make something wrong that led me to this situation ?   
   >   
   >> No, you didn't do anything wrong, it's just the Gentoo KDE team who   
   >> decided to not support the monolithic KDE build anymore and forced   
   >> everyone to switch to the "modular" one (which take a lot longer time to   
   >> compile as many packages uses the same tarball, so unpacking it many   
   >> times). IMHO it was a bad idea, they could have skiped the modular way for   
   >> KDE3 and introduced it with KDE4.   
   >   
   > Is there any good reason that nobody from the gentoo KDE team is   
   > capable of making an announcement when they are going to break updates for   
   > every single person using kde 3.5.9 and require every person using kde   
   > 3.5.9 to do a massive rebuild?   
      
   If you visit the Gentoo-KDE irc channel, you would notice that they are   
   all just running blindly with KDE4, they don't care about those using   
   monolithich KDE3.5.9, they even change traditional ebuilds like ktorrent   
   to depend only on the kde-meta packages (suddenly you can't install/update   
   ktorrent). They think it's a good idea, as it don't affect them.   
      
      
   > portage news on the last 3.5.x build before breaking everything would   
   > have been one place for an announcement.  This newsgroup would have   
   > been another good place.   
      
   Yes, I agree there would have been many good places to annouce the forced   
   change for quite many KDE3 users, but what do you expect of people who   
   hasn't used KDE3 for a year or so.   
      
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