From: jmccue@magnetar.hsd1.ma.comcast.net   
      
   David Chmelik  wrote:   
   > I found that if you remove pam from Slackware 15, you can no longer login   
      
   That I would expect to happen   
      
   >     I know pam started on a derivative Unix, but I wouldn't   
   > really  describe pam 'doing one thing and doing it well.'   
      
   I agree   
      
      
   >     I know someone might want to use pam for a large organization's   
   > servers (which might make easier) but I certainly don't want/need   
   > it for desktop nor even my very small servers.   
      
   I was not thrilled about PAM, but at least it is staying   
   out of my way.  The only annoyance is when I do a   
   'su - root' and type in a bad PW, there is a bit of delay   
   with su(1).   
      
   I think it is baked into just about every package, you   
   may need to recompile everything.  IIRC, It was brought   
   in because KDE needed it and I think XFCE also required   
   it.   
      
   John   
      
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