From: bogus@mail.com   
      
      
   > I was not thrilled about PAM, but at least it is staying   
   > out of my way.  The only annoyance is when I do a   
   > 'su - root' and type in a bad PW, there is a bit of delay   
   > with su(1).   
   >   
   > I think it is baked into just about every package, you   
   > may need to recompile everything.  IIRC, It was brought   
   > in because KDE needed it and I think XFCE also required   
   > it.   
      
   I can attest to it's pervasiveness in 15. That and elogind (which I   
   consider to be a virus).  I looked into removing them but with the   
   amount of packages you would have to maintain, you might as well fork   
   slackware and create a new distro using dpkg.   
      
   Watch out for strange PAM interactions.  I recently had a problem where   
   PAM decided an account with a disabled password was completely valid and   
   enabled account with no password.   
      
   I've thought for years that things would improve, it seems that PAM,   
   SystemD and friends have been responsible for a great many of the   
   problems I've had.  Too bad distros are being forced into adopting them   
   without a clean way to rip them out.   
      
   Maybe it's time for a package-alternates in slackware?   
      
   -=Silven   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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