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   On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 01:12:14 GMT, Sylvain Robitaille wrote:   
      
   > On 2023-07-01, Joseph Rosevear wrote:   
   >   
   > (yes, I dare show up this many months later to follow up ...  ;-)   
      
   Better late, than never!   
   >   
   >>> I've never used grub on a Slackware system ...   
   >>   
   >> You know, Grub is a little obscure.  I went through an uncomfortable   
   >> learning process.   
   >   
   > Oh, I've used grub.  I'm not a fan, but can work with it well enough,   
   > thus my not using it on Slackware systems.  Once you have it configured,   
   > though, you just kind of forget that it's there.   
   > I suppose that's its intent, for those that would repeatedly forget to   
   > re-run lilo after updating a kernel.   
      
   I like that Grub has a command line.  It's like a mini OS, and can do   
   some useful things.  And it works well for me.  I've used it so long that   
   I can't say what, if anything, makes it better.  I remember lilo vaguely.   
   >   
   >>> ... Installing a new OS version on a system is an opportunity to clean   
   >>> out some cruft from past installations, in my opinion, to start again   
   >>> with a clean slate ...   
   >>   
   >> Right, you are.  But have you ever had a need or desire to "mass   
   >> produce" multiple configured installations?   
   >   
   > Only for work.  Read "not with Slackware".  At work we use cobbler to   
   > standardize installations and cfengine to keep configurations   
   > consistent.  A little bit of glue-scripting implemented by a former   
   > colleague and the whole build process works mostly smoothly.  Cobbler is   
   > a great tool, but really designed for RH and Debian derivatives. It's   
   > just not worth trying to wrangle it to work with Slackware.   
      
   Hey, I read a little about cobbler and cfengine online.  Both sound like   
   deluxe tools.  This can be really good!  Of course, the devil is in the   
   details.   
   >   
   > If I were to do "mass installation" with Slackware, I'd resume using TAG   
   > files for package selection, and likely would stick with cfengine for   
   > configuration management.  I've been meaning to work with cfengine on my   
   > home systems, but I just don't have enough of them to justify it.   
   >   
   >> https://joeslife.org/projects/thin   
   >   
   > It's sad to think, but if you haven't been there to maintain that   
   > installation, the systems probably were shelved again some time ago.   
      
   Miraculously, the machines worked, although I expect they are gone now.   
   I rescued them from a tangled pile of components destined for the trash.   
   I would say I pulled a rabbit out of my hat.   
   >   
      
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