From: NoEMail@home.org   
      
   root  wrote:   
   >   
   > For one who has lived with Slackware forever, systemd   
   > is a nightmare. You can do sudo su, and run as   
   > root for a while, but there are things that even   
   > root cannot do. To get at these things you have to   
   > disable systemctl, then it is hard to navigate   
   > around the system.   
      
      
   I was correct, there is no grub in the 15.0 install.   
   There is grub in the 15.0 live (current) system.   
   However, the one I got boots into Plasma, and   
   is at least as bad as the systemd stuff I   
   have been dealing with. Also, the live is not   
   persistent, which older versions were.   
      
   More bitching about Plasma, finding an xterm took   
   too long for me. I gave up on shutting down to   
   a console. Along the way I managed to corrupt   
   the live system, and I am rewriting the install   
   USB as I write.   
   >   
      
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