From: zsd@jdvb.ca
On 2026-01-01 at 09:00 AST, noel wrote:
> There was a singer in the 80's called Jim Diamond ;)
The Scottish guy? Yeah, I remember seeing that some time. If I ever heard
any of his music on the radio I didn't catch his name. I see that all his
earthly problems are behind him. :-(
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 16:36:34 -0400, Jim Diamond wrote:
>>> You want to get to the point where every mail delivery attempt gets
>>> logged,
> they are
>> All these good ideas (yours and other peoples') almost make me want to
>> cause the problem to happen again. ;-)
> why not, then let it go to see when it actually processes it, it'll be
> the mail log, I'm betting 3 days, give or take a few hours :) But if
> thats the case you can shorten that time.
> I'm sure you have a private email and a freemail a/c, send it to yourself
> from one domain to the other.
> If you feel adventurous, send two messages, when you get both failing.
> get the MID of one of them from "mailq" then try "postsuper -r MID"
> and see if it sends, if it does all good, just wait to see how long the
> other takes to send.
OK, just for "fun", I
(1) disconnected from my LAN
(2) sent a mail (using mutt) (i.e., "tried to send a mail")
(3) observed the line in /var/log/maillog saying
... status=deferred (Host or domain name not found. Name service
error for name= type=A: Host not found, try again)
(4) reconnected to the network and pinged 8.8.8.8 to make sure I was
able to reach the internet at large
(5) ran sendmail -v -q
... another "status=deferred (Host or domain name not found. ..."
message in maillog.
(6) Ran postsuper, like you suggested
(7) Got another host not found
(8) Ran sendmail -q -v
(9) Praise be! It went out.
For people who like to see all the gory details:
(1)
(2)
Jan 2 11:14:51 x360 postfix/cleanup[7573]: 662881E01AB: message
id=
Jan 2 11:14:51 x360 postfix/qmgr[2635]: 662881E01AB: from=, size=412, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jan 2 11:14:51 x360 postfix/smtp[7575]: 662881E01AB: to=,
relay=none, delay=0.05, delays=0.03/0.01/0/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host
or domain name not found. Name service error for name= type=A:
Host not found,
try again)
(3)
(4)
Jan 2 11:15:35 x360 postfix/qmgr[2635]: 662881E01AB: from=, size=412, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jan 2 11:15:35 x360 postfix/smtp[7575]: 662881E01AB: to=,
relay=none, delay=44, delays=44/0/0/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or
domain name not found. Name service error for name= type=A:
Host not found, try again)
(5)
(6)
Jan 2 11:16:17 x360 postfix/postsuper[7718]: 662881E01AB: requeued
Jan 2 11:16:17 x360 postfix/postsuper[7718]: Requeued: 1 message
Jan 2 11:17:14 x360 postfix/pickup[7617]: 8D12D1E0147: uid=91 f
om= orig_id=662881E01AB
Jan 2 11:17:14 x360 postfix/cleanup[7804]: 8D12D1E0147: message
id=
Jan 2 11:17:14 x360 postfix/qmgr[2635]: 8D12D1E0147: from=, size=513, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jan 2 11:17:14 x360 postfix/smtp[7575]: 8D12D1E0147: to=, relay=none, delay=143, delays=143/0/0/0, dsn=4.4.3,
status=deferred (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for
name= type=A: Host not found, try
again)
(7)
(8)
Jan 2 11:19:55 x360 postfix/qmgr[2635]: 8D12D1E0147: from=, size=513, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jan 2 11:19:55 x360 postfix/smtp[7937]: 8D12D1E0147: to=, relay=[w.x.y.z]:587, delay=304,
delays=304/0.02/0.24/0.33, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 OK id=1vb
wY-0000000E8Xh-0sEE)
Jan 2 11:19:55 x360 postfix/qmgr[2635]: 8D12D1E0147: removed
(9)
As I think I mentioned, the times this "stuck email" happened to me was
when I injudiciously shut my laptop immediately after finishing an email.
But now I see that (it seems) I can easily reproduce the problem. So I
guess I can test out all the other suggestions at my leisure.
> Happy New Year!
Thanks, you too! (And everyone else who is still using this newsgroup, I
think newsgroup users are on the endangered species list.)
Jim
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