From: elvish_prethley@my.box   
      
   On Thu, 02 Mar 2017 22:21:31 +0000, grinch wrote:   
      
   > I have an odd issue with  KDE plasma 5 desktop. If I boot my laptop on   
   > my wifi network all works just fine and is perfectly stable.   
   >   
   > If I turn off wifi or go to somewhere that I cant log on to the network   
   > the desktop freezes just after login.   
   >   
   > I am running leap 42.2 and the KDE is 5.8 but I had the same issue with   
   > 42.1   
   >   
   > I also have XFCE on as a backup desktop on the laptop which just works   
   > wifi or no wifi   
   >   
   > I have tried google but I must not be asking the right question as I   
   > cant find an answer ,any ideas or at least point me in the right   
   > direction.   
      
   Glad to see I'm not alone. Had problems with 42.1 and finally gave up on   
   using Plasma at all there. I was blaming the Nvidia HDMI (630) card, and   
   I find I can't use the card at all for any linux versions.   
      
   The card works perfectly in Winders, and as I have a home network, no   
   real problem, though I'd rather not use Winders at all except to support   
   others who insist on using it.   
      
   So, installed 42.2 on release, no HDMI card, only to find that Plasma   
   still doesn't work. It freezes, Dolphin eg has no toolbar, and the   
   networking with Samba doesn't work well either. It allows a login to one   
   of my networked machines, but when I go to copy a file across, the login   
   is gonzo.   
      
   Suse has been my system of choice since some time in the 90s, but since   
   42.x, I've found Plasma unreliable, so I stopped using it. I install Mate   
   on first installation, and everything works just fine.   
      
   Thus I get the benefit of being able to use the KDE proggies I need (eg   
   Kmymoney, Pan, Kwooty, YAST, etc) without having to rely on Plasma. Works   
   for me.   
      
   As others are saying they use eg XFCE as a backup, I remind them that   
   Mate has more features and does a good job.   
      
   So, in summary, 42.x has been a problem for me. There ARE solutions, but   
   one solution, unfortunately, is to not rely on Plasma AT ALL.   
      
   Of course, there ARE other solutions, one being to simply use Ubuntu   
   Mate, though I find the programs offered there to be not quite what I   
   look for, and I hate to give up totally on openSUSE, as it's been a   
   faithful system for me for so long. I CAN however give up on Plasma, as   
   I've yet to find it reliable.   
      
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