From: spring@sprung.invalid   
      
   On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 12:40:38 +0100, Aragorn, after 15 edits, wrote this:   
   > On Saturday 04 March 2017 11:49, grinch conveyed the following to   
   > alt.os.linux.suse...   
   >   
   >> Sprang is quite right ,basically if the plasma 5 does not have  a   
   >> working network connection it falls over ,simple as that.   
   >   
   > Now, I'm still using Plasma 4 here, but I've never heard of Plasma (or   
   > any of the older KDE versions) falling over if it doesn't get a network   
   > connection.   
   >   
   > More likely would be that something specific ─ like the Network Manager   
   > applet or ntpd would be trying to connect to the internet and would be   
   > failing after a timeout.   
      
   I was just giving him a lead.   
      
   I cannot. on this machine, replicate his issue.   
      
   System:    Host: xxxx-xxxx.suse Kernel: 4.4.49-16-default x86_64 (64 bit)   
   Desktop:   KDE Plasma 5.8.3   
              Distro: openSUSE Leap 42.2   
   Machine:   Device: laptop System: Sony product: VPCS111FM v: C104CMAM   
              Mobo: Sony model: VAIO BIOS: INSYDE v: R0310Q3 date: 09/30/2010   
   Battery    BAT1: charge: 40.0 Wh 79.8% condition: 50.1/57.2 Wh (88%)   
   CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5 M 430 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB   
              clock speeds: max: 2267 MHz 1: 1199 MHz 2: 1199 MHz 3: 1466 MHz   
               4: 1333 MHz   
   Graphics:  Card: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller   
              Display Server: X.Org 1.18.3 drivers: intel (unloaded:   
               modesetting,fbdev,vesa)   
              Resolution: 1366x768@60.04hz   
              GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Mobile GLX Version: 2.1   
               Mesa 11.2.2   
   Audio:     Card Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio driver:   
               snd_hda_intel   
              Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.49-16-default   
   Network:   Card-1: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200 driver: iwlwifi   
              IF: wlan0 state: up mac: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx   
              Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet driver: atl1c   
              IF: eth0 state: down mac: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx   
   Drives:    HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (23.3% used)   
      
      
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