From: grinch@somewhere.com   
      
   Sprang is quite right ,basically if the plasma 5 does not have  a   
   working network connection it falls over ,simple as that.   
      
   If I log into xfce and setup the wifi network then log out again plasma   
   works.   
      
     I had never tried KDE on top of xfce it is noticeably  faster on the   
   same hardware than the native plasma 5 perhaps that is a way forward.   
      
   This problem came up last year on holiday and installing xfce from the   
   DVD fixed the issue , I took the laptop so I could backup my photographs.   
      
   Thanks for your help   
      
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