From: elvish_prethley@my.box   
      
   On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 16:16:48 +0000, Darklight wrote:   
      
   > Elvish wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Thu, 02 Mar 2017 22:21:31 +0000, grinch wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> I have an odd issue with  KDE plasma 5 desktop. If I boot my laptop on   
   >>> my wifi network all works just fine and is perfectly stable.   
   >>>   
   >>> If I turn off wifi or go to somewhere that I cant log on to the   
   >>> network the desktop freezes just after login.   
   >>>   
   >>> I am running leap 42.2 and the KDE is 5.8 but I had the same issue   
   >>> with 42.1   
   >>>   
   >>> I also have XFCE on as a backup desktop on the laptop which just works   
   >>> wifi or no wifi   
   >>>   
   >>> I have tried google but I must not be asking the right question as I   
   >>> cant find an answer ,any ideas or at least point me in the right   
   >>> direction.   
   >>   
   >> Glad to see I'm not alone. Had problems with 42.1 and finally gave up   
   >> on using Plasma at all there. I was blaming the Nvidia HDMI (630) card,   
   >> and I find I can't use the card at all for any linux versions.   
   >>   
   >> The card works perfectly in Winders, and as I have a home network, no   
   >> real problem, though I'd rather not use Winders at all except to   
   >> support others who insist on using it.   
   >>   
   >> So, installed 42.2 on release, no HDMI card, only to find that Plasma   
   >> still doesn't work. It freezes, Dolphin eg has no toolbar, and the   
   >> networking with Samba doesn't work well either. It allows a login to   
   >> one of my networked machines, but when I go to copy a file across, the   
   >> login is gonzo.   
   >>   
   >> Suse has been my system of choice since some time in the 90s, but since   
   >> 42.x, I've found Plasma unreliable, so I stopped using it. I install   
   >> Mate on first installation, and everything works just fine.   
   >>   
   >> Thus I get the benefit of being able to use the KDE proggies I need (eg   
   >> Kmymoney, Pan, Kwooty, YAST, etc) without having to rely on Plasma.   
   >> Works for me.   
   >>   
   >> As others are saying they use eg XFCE as a backup, I remind them that   
   >> Mate has more features and does a good job.   
   >>   
   >> So, in summary, 42.x has been a problem for me. There ARE solutions,   
   >> but one solution, unfortunately, is to not rely on Plasma AT ALL.   
   >>   
   >> Of course, there ARE other solutions, one being to simply use Ubuntu   
   >> Mate, though I find the programs offered there to be not quite what I   
   >> look for, and I hate to give up totally on openSUSE, as it's been a   
   >> faithful system for me for so long. I CAN however give up on Plasma, as   
   >> I've yet to find it reliable.   
   >>   
   > Have you tried using dvi to hdmi. Using the stated setup on 42.2 here   
   > with no problems. The only reason i am using 42.2 is because of my gpu   
   > which is a rx470 no drivers for opensuse 13.2.  This is not important if   
   > i could use opensuse 13.2 i would be using it now!!!!!!!. I should of   
   > stayed with my r9.   
      
   Have not tried that, but I see no reason to give up the HDMI sound when   
   it works well in Winders. Nothing I did in 42.1 or 42.2 will make my   
   Nvidia GT630 work in ANY linux, and I've tried 13.2 and several non SUSE   
   flavours too. I plan to buy a linux tested HDMI card soon as I always   
   look for ways to move away from Winders for personal use. Don't mind   
   taking peoples' money to support it though.    
      
   Elvish   
      
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