From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2017-08-29 18:11, Elvish wrote:   
   > On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 14:03:52 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> On 2017-08-29 07:07, Elvish wrote:   
      
      
   >> Did you write individual and factual bugzilla reports for each of your   
   >> issues? Unless you do, nothing will be done to solve them.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> My recommendation would be to dedicate another partition in the same   
   >> computer to install the new release, test it, ask (in the mail list),   
   >> and report.   
   >>   
   >> Meanwhile, you keep your older install intact and working on its own   
   >> partition.   
   >   
   > Hi Carlos. Kinda thought you'd be around to help. You have before.    
   >   
   > I'm not comfortable using bugzilla. Takes up a lot of time I don't really   
   > have.   
      
   I know, writing bugzillas is a chore, and there is no warranty of   
   results. But it is the only thing you can do to correct a situation, if   
   it is correctable.   
      
   > Given that I've had basically the same problems with Plasma in ALL   
   > the LEAP versions now, I'm having a real problem believing that Plasma is   
   > coming out ready to go. I could have saved myself some time and effort by   
   > installing MATE along with KDE, as I have before. Won't make that mistake   
   > again. It's very frustrating to have these problems, re-install, and have   
   > it be the same (or worse). I'd suspect the machine, but I have another   
   > and it was the same deal with it, so it's not the HP that's at fault.   
      
   Well, I don't use Plasma, I use XFCE. I can't really say, but many   
   people do use it.   
      
   Actually, I have several desktops installed: gnome, plasma, whatever.   
   Nothing says you can install only one.   
      
   > I'll bear in mind your extra partition idea, and use it in future. That   
   > idea hadn't occurred to me actually.   
      
   :-)   
      
   I'll give you another one: use that partition to test the new release   
   (will be 14.0 or 14.1, I don't remember), while it is still in the test   
   phase. If you see problems, report them. Not here, it is useless: there   
   are too few of us here. Use the mail lists, or the forum if that suits   
   you better. Then bugzilla after the comments.   
      
   That way, there is some chance that the problem can be corrected before   
   the release.   
      
   >   
   > The bottom line is that the world is still turning, not without a working   
   > machine, as MATE is working SO well that I can wait for LEAP to   
   > straighten out. What I've done before is simply use MATE and periodically   
   > update LEAP. This has been successful before. As long as I have access to   
   > the KDE stuff I need, I'm satisfied. I COULD go to another linux release   
   > that has KDE, but I'm satisfied with MATE here for now.   
   >   
   > Thanks for the input. Always good to hear from you.   
      
   Welcome :-)   
      
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
      
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