From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2017-11-21 05:25, bad sector wrote:   
   > On 11/20/2017 11:11 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> On 2017-11-21 03:47, bad sector wrote:   
      
      
      
   >>> Do you mean to issue "startx" as root and then as soon as it starts   
   >>> to bail out because then kdm or gdm will resume. Wouldn't that be   
   >>> the same as just issuing kdm or gdm?   
   >>   
   >> No. I never said that. Nothing of the sort.   
   >>   
   >> I said: do "init 5" in the console as root. When X starts (you get a   
   >> graphical prompt for username and password), you go first and close   
   >> the console session, because it is still open by root, and any one   
   >> passing by can own your computer!   
   >>   
   >> That is: type [ctrl][alt][f1] to get back to the console, then close   
   >> it (type exit or [ctrl][D]), then back to graphics [ctrl][alt][f1].   
   >   
   >   
   > OK, this one is MY goof, to me starx always meant   
   > startKDE exactly the way it does with Slackware,   
   > you are right it really meant start X and whatever   
   > will after that run under X. Init5 does that too,   
   > and it will thus start X with one or other of the   
   > *dm's. As I said I don'thave a real problem with   
   > this if it works, opr with issuing "init 5".   
      
   No, startx does different things than "init 5". Very different.   
      
   Visibly with "init 5" you get a login prompt and can start any user,   
   whereas "startx" starts directly a session for the same user as in   
   console, using the default desktop type - it might be kde, gnome, xfce,   
   whatever.   
      
   The practical difference is that with "init 5" the system assigns "the   
   seat" to the person that logins, and gives him permission to access   
   things such as the audio system, the cd recorder, the USB sticks   
   connected afterwards, etc.   
      
   With start you simply get no permissions. And this problem there is no   
   intention to solve.   
      
   The only supported method is "init 5" and the modern systemd equivalent.   
      
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   Cheers, Carlos.   
      
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