From: unruh@invalid.ca   
      
   On 2018-02-15, andrew.williams@t-online.de  wrote:   
   > On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 6:37:12 PM UTC+1, William Unruh wrote:   
   >> On 2018-02-12, andrew.williams@t-online.de    
   wrote:   
   >> > I have an AMD Athlon, a 64-bit dual processor which has been around for   
   quite a few years now (it claims to be a 4850e, cpu family 15 model 107) and   
   am running a fully patched Leap 42.3 (KDE) on it.   
   >> > Starting over this last weekend it does not always shutdown when I tell   
   it to via KDE, it almost shuts down but then hangs there - autistic - with the   
   power on.   
   >> > At that point I have to hit reset and then shut it down from the login   
   screen.   
   >> >   
   >> > Is anyone else having this kind of problem?   
   >>   
   >> Once it hangs, try   
   >> alt-ctrl-PrtScr alt-ctrl-e   
   >>   
   >> Yes, I have it almost all the time. Running sddm, the sddm login screen   
   comes   
   >> up on shutdown and sometimes disappears after about 5 sec and the shutdown   
   >> completes or it stays up forever. (This is on Mageia but it may well be   
   >> related to yours)   
   >   
   >   
   > Well, I tried the alt-ctrl-PrtScr alt-ctrl-e combinations and ended up   
   having to cut the power for a while and then reboot with an older kernel (the   
   previous version).  Let's just say I won't be trying that again in a hurry.   
      
   Interesting. I have never had any problem. What happened when you did that?   
   And why did you have to reboot with an older kernel?   
      
   Remember I said "Once it hangs", not immediately.   
      
   > Obviously I need to see what went wrong but I may even need to buy a new PC   
   as a primary, given that my old emergency backup PC died completely in   
   September and I have been living without a safety net ever since.   
      
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