From: unruh@invalid.ca   
      
   On 2018-02-15, andrew.williams@t-online.de  wrote:   
   > On Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 5:21:16 PM UTC+1, William Unruh wrote:   
   >> On 2018-02-15, andrew.williams@t-online.de    
   wrote:   
   >> > On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 6:37:12 PM UTC+1, William Unruh wrote:   
   >> >> On 2018-02-12, andrew.williams@t-online.de    
   wrote:   
   >> >> > I have an AMD Athlon, a 64-bit dual processor which has been around   
   for quite a few years now (it claims to be a 4850e, cpu family 15 model 107)   
   and am running a fully patched Leap 42.3 (KDE) on it.   
   >> >> > Starting over this last weekend it does not always shutdown when I   
   tell it to via KDE, it almost shuts down but then hangs there - autistic -   
   with the power on.   
   >> >> > At that point I have to hit reset and then shut it down from the login   
   screen.   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> > Is anyone else having this kind of problem?   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Once it hangs, try   
   >> >> alt-ctrl-PrtScr alt-ctrl-e   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Yes, I have it almost all the time. Running sddm, the sddm login screen   
   comes   
   >> >> up on shutdown and sometimes disappears after about 5 sec and the   
   shutdown   
   >> >> completes or it stays up forever. (This is on Mageia but it may well be   
   >> >> related to yours)   
   >> >   
   >> >   
   >> > Well, I tried the alt-ctrl-PrtScr alt-ctrl-e combinations and ended up   
   having to cut the power for a while and then reboot with an older kernel (the   
   previous version).  Let's just say I won't be trying that again in a hurry.   
   >>   
   >> Interesting. I have never had any problem. What happened when you did that?   
   >> And why did you have to reboot with an older kernel?   
   >>   
   >> Remember I said "Once it hangs", not immediately.   
   >>   
   >> > Obviously I need to see what went wrong but I may even need to buy a new   
   PC as a primary, given that my old emergency backup PC died completely in   
   September and I have been living without a safety net ever since.   
   >   
   >   
   > 1 - Yes, I tried that when it was hanging.   
   As I said, very strange. What happened after you did ACPrtScr ACE tjat upi   
   felt you had to do a power off? Again, why did you have to boot from an older   
   kernel   
   after that? And was there anything displayed on the screen   
      
   > 2 - The PC was built some time around 2008 and it appears to be having   
   > difficulties.  I am in the process of organising a new one and will then try   
   > and get this one repaired so it can act as a backup if the new one gets   
   > sick.   
   > My PC doctor thinks it could be a power-supply problem.  We'll see.   
      
   That is the usual suspect. Power supplies tend to be built cheaply and run   
   hot, drying up the capacitors in them. But after 10 years, it could be almost   
   anything.   
      
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